Received: by 2002:ad5:474a:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id i10csp8013377imu; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 01:11:28 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/Xyzzb4B3lXtaTPZqGEf5NVCUhbQNMMCGJtAt7FcJSBIfo7fICA9dZBbbQvOg8yHsBQyy+A X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:33c2:: with SMTP id b60mr19160218plc.211.1543914688632; Tue, 04 Dec 2018 01:11:28 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1543914688; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=Umr/Imu1WLiMpE2/wEIHJuw8uvaDnMajWdhJNziIPgQizENbjCHYkv9yJc91BxxVMa 7pLlsdYzq4lK7LT5BuAb6oAXOEEnfVxdwybVgP4IKSHW6jXc78P9bMnxNG2lrAAYl6oN 4TN87lMNLYapE/3We82+qaS54hQvkSCUPX9eBQQ0hLhDIGbUjt1jSnNUsKvJPQUuXPig pqiSqfLW+/U/fyL+vNBQnEulYhaGdGpa/Gn/KGDUT1UCloPiGLOdxi6yE0kDO9BzuctW KhlTM+HendC9Sersuq9GrBD1GbqkB3VAbt9kFZ8wqB5ExKonQEy075tKj50uLfPdYRah DVyg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=Pnt8pbyuUJPjnotnJIGOPlEsE9HFnvTRlSkf2LhSbN0=; b=KfvP3SUna7K8uOAu5rxZPDxWAdsi0yxB2LatzgEb3U/maLKyl7KCy07ndV9PHSpxzw pD+m0Qv08uZrcwBObKRC6T+hOklJhdCDa770hezQVXKB089YtHxkjf+RGyG0jqfCAbmK 36ns8YcprmwA5MfpM+4ti7YQz/8aA+f++nnVAGeHE93anBDouboAvesPcx3QCqir/Crv /k5N/KSOVcO2F/Qdapu8yQAjHrAHRnXFP02hFNUfevqbDTrAvnwqjJpHr/6z7R4fO0pE FYbqYpu6N+6SndqbAyvFmQWSShqE8vG/6a7DFtz2u0T5Yi2+FXa8VEtanXgdF31d2gu1 7DFQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 64si14593211pge.261.2018.12.04.01.11.12; Tue, 04 Dec 2018 01:11:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1725956AbeLDJKZ (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 4 Dec 2018 04:10:25 -0500 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:54536 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725769AbeLDJKZ (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Dec 2018 04:10:25 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F076AF3A; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 09:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 10:10:20 +0100 From: Michal Hocko To: Ingo Molnar Cc: Pavel Machek , Oleg Nesterov , Linus Torvalds , Linux List Kernel Mailing , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Chanho Min , Thomas Gleixner , Peter Zijlstra Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "exec: make de_thread() freezable (was: Re: Linux 4.20-rc4) Message-ID: <20181204091020.GD1286@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <20181203074700.GA21240@gmail.com> <20181203083942.GF31738@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20181203123149.GB31795@redhat.com> <20181203123857.GS31738@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20181203131006.GA10054@amd> <20181203135351.GU31738@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20181203141459.GA14789@amd> <20181203141737.GY31738@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20181204090228.GC73770@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181204090228.GC73770@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue 04-12-18 10:02:28, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Michal Hocko wrote: > > > > Do we actually have reports of this happening for people outside > > > Android? > > > > Not that I am aware of. > > I'd say outside of Android 99% of the use of hibernation is the fail-safe > that distributions offer on laptops with very low battery levels: the > emergency hibernation when there's almost no power left anymore. > > Do these hibernation failure messages typically make it to persistent > logs before the system uses power? I dunno. I do not use hibernation. I am a heavy user of the suspend though. I s2ram all the time. And I have certainly experienced cases where suspend has failed and I onlyi found out later when I've picked up my laptop from my heat up bag. Nothing fatal has resulted from that but this is certainly annoying. -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs