Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265763AbUAPU7J (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:59:09 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265764AbUAPU7J (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:59:09 -0500 Received: from kinesis.swishmail.com ([209.10.110.86]:57612 "EHLO kinesis.swishmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265763AbUAPU7F (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:59:05 -0500 Message-ID: <4008509B.2060707@techsource.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:59:07 -0500 From: Timothy Miller User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu CC: Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] Redundancy eliminating file systems, breaking MD5, donating money to OSDL References: <4008480F.70206@techsource.com> <200401162037.i0GKbgWY005453@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> In-Reply-To: <200401162037.i0GKbgWY005453@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1209 Lines: 30 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:22:39 EST, Timothy Miller said: > > >>Think about it! If we had a filesystem that actually DID this, and it >>was in the Linux kernel, it would spread far and wide. It's bound to >>happen that someone will identify a collision. We then report that to >>the committee offering the reward and then donate it to OSDL to help >>Linux development. > > > Actually, it's *not* "bound to happen". Figure out the number of blocks you'd > need to have even a 1% chance of a birthday collision in a 2**128 space. > > And you'd need that many disk blocks on *a single system*. > > Then figure out the chances of a collision on a small machine that only has 20 > or 30 terabytes (yes, in this case terabytes is small). Certainly. No one machine is going to find it in a reasonable period. OTOH, if a million machines were doing it, it increases the chances by just that much. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/