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[209.85.208.181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m13-v6sm4133342ljg.56.2018.12.05.14.03.27 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Dec 2018 14:03:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lj1-f181.google.com with SMTP id g11-v6so19800218ljk.3 for ; Wed, 05 Dec 2018 14:03:27 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9819:: with SMTP id a25-v6mr18359782ljj.6.1544047407295; Wed, 05 Dec 2018 14:03:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181203183050.GL31738@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20181203185954.GM31738@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20181203201214.GB3540@redhat.com> <64a4aec6-3275-a716-8345-f021f6186d9b@suse.cz> <20181204104558.GV23260@techsingularity.net> <20181205204034.GB11899@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <20181205204034.GB11899@redhat.com> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 14:03:10 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LKP] [mm] ac5b2c1891: vm-scalability.throughput -61.3% regression To: Andrea Arcangeli Cc: mgorman@techsingularity.net, Vlastimil Babka , mhocko@kernel.org, ying.huang@intel.com, s.priebe@profihost.ag, Linux List Kernel Mailing , alex.williamson@redhat.com, lkp@01.org, David Rientjes , kirill@shutemov.name, Andrew Morton , zi.yan@cs.rutgers.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:40 PM Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > So ultimately we decided that the saner behavior that gives the least > risk of regression for the short term, until we can do something > better, was the one that is already applied upstream. You're ignoring the fact that people *did* report things regressed. That's the part I find unacceptable. You're saying "we picked something that minimized regressions". No it didn't. The regression is present and real, and is on a real load, not a benchmark. So that argument is clearly bogus. I'm going to revert the commit since people apparently seem to be ignoring this fundamental issue. Real workloads regressed. The regressions got reported. Ignoring that isn't acceptable. Linus