Received: by 2002:ad5:474a:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id i10csp444060imu; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 21:04:23 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/U13MyOo2eJ3s4hX8zUQPgHLhhKFn1fXPk/2GP/8otFekZ8fSwrwVqZ41GI4mnP2qfLfqOk X-Received: by 2002:a63:451a:: with SMTP id s26mr20864487pga.150.1544677463597; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 21:04:23 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1544677463; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=ZGm3vdMhIfnA58u9J0DEZVWa93MSmuVfanhcc+aY13LZySvfqOVbNovqSD5caYtkym g8Y7XR6RMlthxxle4JdNXr3VMh1IUonkxMcWn0CVpVDILhWcD6B+cKnlI3i2MQy/2aiV 8yQHYHFUogc7bYRJ+q8BJK6qaeSEl0FHz/yf0fnHKO5Qs7WucjTunu5oyL3GSVCw2sFr ObQmpuHo2ECgX0F+NpRorHhIqmqG6frSvY0pkZCUVzqJXkajahigE5Whc5g9C3BGysYM bcKBkuF7Bbk1BZli6HnYEgHz3XDABfkAmxpLR5OymxuiClCKzYuwRSdvSHHZMhSnsax7 EBYQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=fbM6Ta0rfFICwdqYdSc8hZt/XClcLy/kYRmz5keDKAU=; b=kU2WwDn8ZKtzFRlPvoeLV5K5GBxZwT9Oadkgp1prhZA/W8LidTuqGISZhzk3eBzPFX pvwWdV5LV44p5ImQcKt7XB8rG+oTHZW7n8LqcLVNRb+epD5vLFtmcLYtMKq15FEwrk6A a6Pvoy4ETdcIcWB0iKc2rynLp6SacjddYMtOqBJTg9hRo4uzEeLriA15ZKHEWiXVpQlJ WQi3W/r4JWyzh49KjL1IA1OWwIBtCDZ3LAL/M4fYUUVJA4aBMJ3eOTWF+HkEl8mgdQ8q OPH128mpt38AQHR78ypdvUCa4NnccLysPNcIOyt79snzPKwSBYAV9fwhQK6L3F+8wUK8 z5pg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id s84si669545pgs.306.2018.12.12.21.04.08; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 21:04:23 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726764AbeLMFDS (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 13 Dec 2018 00:03:18 -0500 Received: from aws.guarana.org ([13.237.110.252]:55330 "EHLO aws.guarana.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726226AbeLMFDS (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Dec 2018 00:03:18 -0500 Received: by aws.guarana.org (Postfix, from userid 1006) id AB9E0A18AB; Thu, 13 Dec 2018 05:03:13 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 05:03:13 +0000 From: Kevin Easton To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz Cc: Andy Lutomirski , X86 ML , LKML , Linux API , "H. Peter Anvin" , Peter Zijlstra , Borislav Petkov , Florian Weimer , Mike Frysinger , "H. J. Lu" , Rich Felker , x32@buildd.debian.org, Arnd Bergmann , Will Deacon , Catalin Marinas , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: Can we drop upstream Linux x32 support? Message-ID: <20181213050313.GA21201@ip-172-31-15-78> References: <70bb54b2-8ed3-b5ee-c02d-6ef66c4f27eb@physik.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <70bb54b2-8ed3-b5ee-c02d-6ef66c4f27eb@physik.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 11:29:14AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: ... > I can't say anything about the syscall interface. However, what I do know > is that the weird combination of a 32-bit userland with a 64-bit kernel > interface is sometimes causing issues. For example, application code usually > expects things like time_t to be 32-bit on a 32-bit system. However, this > isn't the case for x32 which is why code fails to build. OpenBSD and NetBSD both have 64-bit time_t on 32-bit systems and have had for four or five years at this point. - Kevin