Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266251AbUAVN2q (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:28:46 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266256AbUAVN2q (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:28:46 -0500 Received: from thunk.org ([140.239.227.29]:37076 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266251AbUAVN2o (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:28:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:28:39 -0500 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: Linux Kernel List Subject: Re: List 'linux-dvb' closed to public posts Message-ID: <20040122132839.GD7862@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Ts'o , Linux Kernel List References: <20040121194315.GE9327@redhat.com> <1074717499.18964.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040121211550.GK9327@redhat.com> <20040121230851.A27913@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040121230851.A27913@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1189 Lines: 27 On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 11:08:51PM +0000, Russell King wrote: > Umm, I don't think that's entirely correct. There's a problem in the > UK and EU with 100% open mailing lists - it's called data protection, > where the owner of their personal data has certain rights. I believe > that it is questionable whether such open lists can be run in the EU, > or even by EU individuals. > > There appears to be two ways around this problem: There is a third, actually: 3. Abandon running mailing lists in the E.U., and let them be run in the other countries that don't have these sorts of insane laws. "The Net interprets censorship as damage, and routes around it." - Ted P.S. Not that I think that concept of data protection is a bad thing, but if it prevents open mailing lists --- if posting to a list isn't considered an implicit permission to redistribute the mail and have it be archived --- something is badly, badly, badly wrong. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/