Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261957AbUAWJRk (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 Jan 2004 04:17:40 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265383AbUAWJRk (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 Jan 2004 04:17:40 -0500 Received: from hibernia.jakma.org ([213.79.33.168]:3724 "EHLO hibernia.jakma.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261957AbUAWJRi (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 Jan 2004 04:17:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:17:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Jakma X-X-Sender: paul@fogarty.jakma.org To: David Ford cc: Jes Sorensen , Zan Lynx , Andreas Jellinghaus , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] Confirmation Spam Blocking was: List 'linux-dvb' closed to public posts In-Reply-To: <401000C1.9010901@blue-labs.org> Message-ID: References: <20040121194315.GE9327@redhat.com> <1074717499.18964.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040121211550.GK9327@redhat.com> <20040121213027.GN23765@srv-lnx2600.matchmail.com> <1074731162.25704.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <401000C1.9010901@blue-labs.org> X-NSA: iraq saddam hammas hisballah rabin ayatollah korea vietnam revolt mustard gas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1077 Lines: 25 On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, David Ford wrote: > Considering that Bayesian filters are useless against the new spam > that is proliferating these days, that's laughable. Spam now comes > with a good 5-10K of random dictionary words. Right, but random words result in strange couplings of words. Statistical filters should be working on phrases, not just individual words. So to the statistical filter random words will just be meaningless noise, neither an indicator of goodness nor of spamness. (unless a spammer reuses a boilerplate 'random word' section - in which case it'll be an indicator of spamness). regards, -- Paul Jakma paul@clubi.ie paul@jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A warning: do not ever send email to spam@dishone.st Fortune: Men of lofty genius when they are doing the least work are most active. -- Leonardo da Vinci - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/