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Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1c7923ec-70aa-25d4-3de1-f1b1768bb80b@candelatech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 12/21/18 1:59 PM, Ben Greear wrote: > On 12/21/18 9:44 AM, Tim Chen wrote: >> Thomas, >> >> Andi and I have made an update to our draft of the Spectre admin guide. >> We may be out on Christmas vacation for a while.  But we want to >> send it out for everyone to take a look. > > Can you add a section on how to compile out all mitigations that have anything > beyond negligible performance impact for those running systems where performance > is more important than security? > If you don't worry about security and performance is paramount, then boot with "nospectre_v2". That's explained in the document. Tim