Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:30:00 -0500
From: Daniel Jacobowitz <dan@debian.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Userland headers available
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On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 01:38:06AM +0000, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Followup to:  <4011788D.3070606@nortelnetworks.com>
> By author:    Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>
> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> >
> > Friesen, Christopher [CAR:7Q28:EXCH] wrote:
> > 
> > > The obvious way is to have the kernel headers include the userland
> > > headers, then everything below that be wrapped in "#ifdef __KERNEL__". 
> > > Userland then includes the normal kernel headers, but only gets the 
> > > userland-safe ones.
> > 
> > I just realized this wasn't clear.  I envision a new set of headers in 
> > the kernel that are clean to export to userland.  The current headers 
> > then include the appropriate userland-clean ones, and everything below 
> > that is kernel only.
> > 
> > This lets the kernel maintain the userland-clean headers explicitly, and 
> > we don't have the work of cleaning them up for glibc.
> > 
> 
> We've referred to this for quite a while as the "ABI header project";
> it's been targetted for 2.7, since it missed the 2.6 freeze.
> 
> We have set up a mailing list at:
> 
> 	http://zytor.com/mailman/listinfo/linuxabi
> 
> The goal is to get a formal exportable version of the kernel ABI that
> user-space libraries can use.

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Daniel Jacobowitz
MontaVista Software                         Debian GNU/Linux Developer
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