Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266129AbUA2BKd (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:10:33 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266282AbUA2BKd (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:10:33 -0500 Received: from mail009.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.64]:39860 "EHLO mail009.syd.optusnet.com.au") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266129AbUA2BKb (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:10:31 -0500 From: Christian Unger Reply-To: chakkerz@optusnet.com.au Organization: naiv.sourceforge.net To: Timothy Miller Subject: Re: [OT] Crazy idea: Design open-source graphics chip Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:11:05 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <4017F2C0.4020001@techsource.com> In-Reply-To: <4017F2C0.4020001@techsource.com> Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401291211.05461.chakkerz@optusnet.com.au> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2109 Lines: 45 > No more being at the mercy of closed-development graphics chip designers > who make Linux an after-though if they even think of us at all. I don't know if we are at the mercy of closed-development code. In a way you are always at the mercy of someone. Say there was an open driver development push for an open GPU, someone would still have to code for it. Someone would make decisions and someone would disagree. We would in effect be at the mercy of those. We are at the mercy of the kernel coders as we speak. Decisions could be made that affect you and me, right now. Suddenly it might be decided that AC97 is useless and support will not be continued. Unlikely but it could happen. So then what? I don't think i could just jump in and code that. Certainly there are people that could, but what if those patches were to be ignored? Forked? Oh ... don't get me wrong, i think that the conceptual idea is awesome. Personally, i wouldn't know where to begin, but can the open source community compete with Nvidia and ATI? afterall this goes beyond software, it delves into hardware. Sure there are people with the knowledge, maybe even with the means, but i doubt the financial backing would be there from the get go. But hey. I hope i'm wrong and open hardware is the next big thing. One request though. Make the cooler quiet please :) ... One afterthought on the mercy bit. I had issues with NVidia's 5328 drivers on 2.6 ... it was frustrating and all, but if i thought the path of least resistance i doubt i'd be running Linux. Then again... I quit running Windows because i couldn't take it anymore. -- with kind regards, Christian Unger - < > - < > - < > - < > - < > - < > - < > - < > - Alt. Email: chakkerz_dev@optusnet.com.au ICQ: 204184156 Mobile: 0402 268904 Web: http://naiv.sourceforge.net - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/