Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266130AbUA2SGz (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:06:55 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266167AbUA2SGy (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:06:54 -0500 Received: from devil.servak.biz ([209.124.81.2]:39400 "EHLO devil.servak.biz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266130AbUA2SGx (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:06:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [OT] Crazy idea: Design open-source graphics chip From: Torrey Hoffman To: Timothy Miller Cc: chakkerz@optusnet.com.au, Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <40193136.4070607@techsource.com> References: <4017F2C0.4020001@techsource.com> <200401291211.05461.chakkerz@optusnet.com.au> <40193136.4070607@techsource.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1075399602.9073.30.camel@moria.arnor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:06:42 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - devil.servak.biz X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - vger.kernel.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - arnor.net Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1201 Lines: 32 On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 08:13, Timothy Miller wrote: > We cannot compete with Nvidia or ATI or 3Dlabs or Matrox or even S3. > > The real question we have to ask ourselves is, what would be the market > demand for a graphics card that is 3 generations behind the state of the > art and over-priced, the only advantage being that it's a 100% open > architecture? I think I can do better than that by buying two-generation-behind cards off EBay. The older Matrox, ATI, etc. cards have complete driver documentation (AFAIK) or at least are very well supported by completely open Linux / XFree86 drivers. You can get a Matrox Millenium G400 on EBay right now for under $20. Or an ATI 7500 for under $30. So, as cool as an open-source graphics chip would be, I think if you can't manufacture a complete AGP card with your new chip for less than $30, and better performance than those parts... don't bother. -- Torrey Hoffman - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/