Received: by 2002:ad5:474a:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id i10csp3546000imu; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 05:04:30 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN4KU2EBKlTholi3l4SwtyKuF+6MfYezbDf0aZ9RoAqptDnhcMX8Q1pH2BhnmmFnOGRe+pOz X-Received: by 2002:a63:1e56:: with SMTP id p22mr22630772pgm.126.1547471070471; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 05:04:30 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1547471070; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=PoscZ2m+QGD+kbFuUBRm1gy820LDZDogfxZsNDf1M1mGVIEQe4Qo11yksdT+P62BA7 XVGaGHcsujSFixPNeXAG5amdvA+Dt/m0uAxyzXk3fyhsmQdZAlVBwmDS+v6b72Gg6DHM iJYySJXYrY/BKToGVMBAg2/lixcjYGZ00J2kpnWpKmiPbIa01cc81MsXjboQ47PaLVFD 1QZ5N+M+C82iQZJ+RiJYh4ligD3OnOEy/lhABGxkBnwIlpykxRskofvGXlX3sOI5rYDQ XJAwViNwXIyKVxgD/82u2YwNxP5emPDDVQkunTo6nGMGs9k33JGTu3i8AqtS/mRs6LnR zIXQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=/Yu/ijvyPlswAjerVQnuRuTHwfE9OeGmI9SpI5PFK5Y=; b=GS21XdrVqvVgZ1xN+c/mk/20qeSPtpfKiLkOrsA/UBqFht4DDIGIlTIPMx4ap7WcVd bDwg6HqgxdWq4qc/5MFMnwJ0JsbO5JMO6ffd/xj/akrq/d77WAc/Isal4mK+jpBAScAi AYfsIVvB8+OW13sauIcahbFL8xatPdhaFg+WmGZNqOeRmFGDFHEQ/gAOLGt7h4Jg+QXj nKTS5Hkx/CkgTSx6RQYxEigvidkGiDAdl7FN9J/Zk+gcCagxxGJGUNfd2mJeJyh12a0E +aZFnB87VX2gKyu9yy17oDBctxB8B7ZUk+nW0pLivPE5sGXmcAoW02ZjtKbNdLwlitbO xqkg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id w16si283047pga.328.2019.01.14.05.04.14; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 05:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726572AbfANNB5 (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 14 Jan 2019 08:01:57 -0500 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.26.193]:39367 "EHLO atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726449AbfANNB4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Jan 2019 08:01:56 -0500 Received: by atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (Postfix, from userid 512) id CD5C8809FC; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:01:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:01:54 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: Jiri Kosina Cc: Tim Chen , Jonathan Corbet , Thomas Gleixner , Linus Torvalds , Tom Lendacky , Ingo Molnar , Peter Zijlstra , Josh Poimboeuf , Andrea Arcangeli , David Woodhouse , Andi Kleen , Dave Hansen , Asit Mallick , Arjan van de Ven , Jon Masters , Waiman Long , Greg KH , Borislav Petkov , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/speculation: Add document to describe Spectre and its mitigations Message-ID: <20190114130153.GC21544@amd> References: <64efec3fda40c0758601bf9b1480a35d76d3c487.1545413988.git.tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com> <20181228103437.4c03c181@lwn.net> <20190113231001.GB18710@amd> <20190114120157.GB21544@amd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon 2019-01-14 13:06:24, Jiri Kosina wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019, Pavel Machek wrote: >=20 > > > > That one really is Intel-specific (not even all x86s are affectd). = Same=20 > > > > for Meltdown. > > >=20 > > > At least for Meltdown, your claim is simply not correct. > >=20 > > You are right, there may be few ARM chips affected by meltdown. >=20 > And some of the powerpc64s as well. Do you mean this? https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/1/8/649 Frankly I'd not call it Meltdown, as it works only on data in the cache, so the defense is completely different. Seems more like a l1tf :-). Pavel --=20 (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blo= g.html --uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlw8iEEACgkQMOfwapXb+vJqgACgmZsTauJosHl/t1XgYZPA2ajV p3UAmgMnZydkKqUgWv16yx1gr9rZQgiP =S6Lg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ--