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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 87si7948679pfs.7.2019.01.16.16.39.29; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 16:39:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@google.com header.s=20161025 header.b=WvrRJZck; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=google.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1731153AbfAPVoi (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 16 Jan 2019 16:44:38 -0500 Received: from mail-wm1-f65.google.com ([209.85.128.65]:51636 "EHLO mail-wm1-f65.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1730413AbfAPVoi (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Jan 2019 16:44:38 -0500 Received: by mail-wm1-f65.google.com with SMTP id b11so3677349wmj.1 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:44:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=amyYQ0mfOwL3n6qC0TXaw+DPRTwqAe3I4F6HyJ5F61I=; b=WvrRJZckgwYnrL8o7H1BhdjbnhUOYZ5cIpiQdXpURKsYQUjBW2kOU4fugchO1Cl4cG I/S6SqE+nOQTxvbLPDMfKOPzbnDzFkZhooeD8XGQ0EnzNKKCEgkkxvJALkT0CMe6Kywr ZwpQ7x9EkJMHlUql89jGO5p0M7ATjqCAxzwGzychKyRuj536GlWdmov6D4A5G48RGA97 yEP1BQ9JK95B5AA8idfBRF6opo+UmIX1Yk1OQs2uZg0aUdP7Anmr3dK8UbeQ4ymZS/yC qAIv2cbK03txqy/MH7MrDZL0H6nUWVgBTCVY28kOU8wgJ15IeorgnSEIIvrhQrC3iIS/ Szxw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=amyYQ0mfOwL3n6qC0TXaw+DPRTwqAe3I4F6HyJ5F61I=; b=adOO5W+ZcjA9vic+8SeFcCshZoCfF1l9A7fTbg9W03fTMfEeazFrEJWlsnpdR6mrg0 yXl+aQwGOy+TeYq8FZQ3kCEW3iUwcm8/IaaqfzBNUb2DJHKjNY3TOmkOclXMXFhIWPOk GVos3Tk3ju0bZrVULHGGHwQLPnR6iiYx2RkV3FBm7z3F0Utg41X8RfEiVlP3xuCZeCDd lIE6I8Pg6abQFEYMSGAzJAwALAb9skQUNAJVrEzFe1k762SHV7lgpMqUOSz9EVmCJR// K03B//MZsJ9RPu0C59FGQTlLeamYmuLz84yVr1W91Qi4B39n8Kn76Jwjazd/3K7sfJ9i Ps0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukdawbmEOxZ/RvBUysp0C2SE9ourGempEpSB3WeBmhkSJ1wF7nGB hdku1iN6Sc51yucq3cxQALXOfrD4vBUd+6zmwiKQ X-Received: by 2002:a1c:5984:: with SMTP id n126mr8815661wmb.62.1547675076484; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:44:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190116181859.D1504459@viggo.jf.intel.com> <20190116181905.12E102B4@viggo.jf.intel.com> <98ab9bc8-8a17-297c-da7c-2e6b5a03ef24@intel.com> In-Reply-To: <98ab9bc8-8a17-297c-da7c-2e6b5a03ef24@intel.com> From: Bjorn Helgaas Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 15:44:24 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] dax: "Hotplug" persistent memory for use like normal RAM To: Dave Hansen Cc: Dave Hansen , Dave Hansen , Dan Williams , Dave Jiang , zwisler@kernel.org, vishal.l.verma@intel.com, thomas.lendacky@amd.com, Andrew Morton , mhocko@suse.com, linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-mm@kvack.org, Huang Ying , Wu Fengguang , Borislav Petkov , baiyaowei@cmss.chinamobile.com, Takashi Iwai Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:40 PM Dave Hansen wrote: > On 1/16/19 1:16 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 12:25 PM Dave Hansen > > wrote: > >> From: Dave Hansen > >> Currently, a persistent memory region is "owned" by a device driver, > >> either the "Direct DAX" or "Filesystem DAX" drivers. These drivers > >> allow applications to explicitly use persistent memory, generally > >> by being modified to use special, new libraries. > > > > Is there any documentation about exactly what persistent memory is? > > In Documentation/, I see references to pstore and pmem, which sound > > sort of similar, but maybe not quite the same? > > One instance of persistent memory is nonvolatile DIMMS. They're > described in great detail here: Documentation/nvdimm/nvdimm.txt Thanks! Some bread crumbs in the changelog to lead there would be great. Bjorn