Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262048AbUCDRtP (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Mar 2004 12:49:15 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262049AbUCDRtP (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Mar 2004 12:49:15 -0500 Received: from abraham.CS.Berkeley.EDU ([128.32.37.170]:6919 "EHLO abraham.cs.berkeley.edu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262048AbUCDRtM (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Mar 2004 12:49:12 -0500 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Path: not-for-mail From: daw@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner) Newsgroups: isaac.lists.linux-kernel Subject: Re: dm-crypt, new IV and standards Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 17:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: isaac Message-ID: References: <20040220172237.GA9918@certainkey.com> <20040303150647.GC1586@certainkey.com> <20040304132430.GA8213@certainkey.com> Reply-To: daw-usenet@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner) NNTP-Posting-Host: taverner.cs.berkeley.edu X-Trace: abraham.cs.berkeley.edu 1078422265 13881 128.32.153.228 (4 Mar 2004 17:44:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 17:44:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: daw@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 853 Lines: 10 Jean-Luc Cooke wrote: >Like you said, CBC is not trivial to temper with - though it is do able. CTR >is trivial on the other hand. Which is why NIST and every cryptographer will >recommend using a MAC with CTR. (Why still have CTR? Unlike CBC, you can >compute the N+1-th block without needing to know the output from the N-th >block, so there is the possibility for very high parallelizum). I'm worried about the potential for confusion, so let me clarify: Good cryptographers will recommend using a MAC, whether you use CTR, CBC, or CFB. The need for a MAC is not specific to CTR; CBC is not exempt. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/