Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261706AbUCHFRx (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Mar 2004 00:17:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262055AbUCHFRx (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Mar 2004 00:17:53 -0500 Received: from mail.zero.ou.edu ([129.15.0.75]:39092 "EHLO c3p0.ou.edu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261706AbUCHFRv (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Mar 2004 00:17:51 -0500 Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:07:13 -0600 From: "Stephen M. Kenton" Subject: Re: new special filesystem for consideration in 2.6/2.7 To: linux kernel mailing list Message-id: <404BB931.1D3C83E8@ou.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1530 Lines: 35 >> If the recent news about giga-bit mram being a real possibility in >> the not too far future pans out, this may be get more important. >This is a reality in embedded devices. Go read the message again... Umm, yes and no. I did not mean to dis this proposal because I think it is worthwhile. Rather, I was thinking about the problems with really large amounts of data. I don't really think that a few Kilo or Mega bytes of data needs the same sort of infrastructure that will be required for Tera or Peta bytes. As an extreme example the few bytes of nv ram in the cmos clock chips in the original PC/AT did not require much support while the multiple terabytes of data in my raid farm at work would be very vulnerable under this proposal since a rogue process could cause lots of damage in very sort order as would losing a memory bank to hardware failure. In the last discussion I saw on the topic on lkml, there was discussion about whether to even preserve the volume/directory/file abstraction at all for memory mapped data spaces. That discussion was quite speculative given the lack of affordable *really large* nvram type storage to compete with 100+ gigabyte disks and even larger raids. That situation may be changing. Hence, this may become more important. smk - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/