Received: by 2002:ac0:946b:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id j40csp4084488imj; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 09:30:15 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IZLoplivLSRtNMKtdKOhhxd2ABR1HcDgcuD6Bg7asKIFiquJvoiZz7wTZL3ORFvVIC4tjnQ X-Received: by 2002:a65:6150:: with SMTP id o16mr4652401pgv.434.1549992615332; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 09:30:15 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1549992615; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=vw+6qHlcG5VmPxNIhiOD4/JcDE+6QVTOlwKVzE2XWBCBGtlEg51Xc12sVYK2YBxXcs eJVKNYk3os/DEdkPEW5OKjeVldppAMRKII/3j3PZPX8zpBTunErRVY84wftgVdKYIN4S MvRAfBkUwMpYQ2VzZXOwDd7XbedWCg2Pnk9MvTqWw4PmW8hQaP1USzXzqNW+KAMLAEqm tKMlIv5k4cmiiNa10hEFKHQpD1j/PF1mZGcRQcQmuKa4gxSASZO13JEE5QoIep0p+smw SYbfGgWw+EdMXzKVyL1mWnsMCz2f7R7zF6loXteb2NlhGSTRPbbCFbhxE9wJ42uVx0Eu Tmrw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:content-disposition :mime-version:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:dkim-signature; bh=lBpKb/wbbXQeVoDwcKIY1DcbF2frsZ0l73LEA0sVM7M=; b=H+HCmMFM3JPRGeIGDJkjO8O4cQCHdKJyxhfNXtbTd9vpLmaC+PVUoOvoz07J1tEwT8 ZHWsZcUyJtOFadsQlJOALlDUbwryhNE4gdXi7F06RULojeBN75Cexpq1PPRJ2LxQ1tlz a6zXIXVoceb9wZuhmNj0h9CO9DdBV9FLAhhwKfScjgAiulGg3j+9QMMaF9jW+S+8qw9b tkqz7XgUqzA3ekfnOCDUoyNXQeebXCFkv8xHHPPozyFo5xVFbi2HTwsQw+/XJO5irc83 llBYOk1knKbbNTPte/mb0yJ/UmitlBFiDK/wwIJ1jOuODmbVb3WlZ99y9VEppM2kSqON rO4g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=default header.b=kayr7AB1; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i16si6273422pfi.192.2019.02.12.09.29.58; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 09:30:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=default header.b=kayr7AB1; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729291AbfBLRAP (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:00:15 -0500 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:47870 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728927AbfBLRAO (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:00:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-73-47-72-35.hsd1.nh.comcast.net [73.47.72.35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E82F3206A3; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 17:00:13 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1549990814; bh=lBpKb/wbbXQeVoDwcKIY1DcbF2frsZ0l73LEA0sVM7M=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:From; b=kayr7AB1SjalDDD5c/bKDcSDgEAkbNv0RHCVudc+pGFp49+yJ7LF+GqkGZ8MuDPqB Eodtt30H80uBcRT7CzXsQHVyW1muygiKft0PTj36ZxPGkoj3YI9fln6WfoYC/Wb2Xq oE6XWCnus4JGxAmHpySrpuqHNM+9kPyzPC6ivJUw= Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:00:12 -0500 From: Sasha Levin To: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: [LSF/MM TOPIC] FS, MM, and stable trees Message-ID: <20190212170012.GF69686@sasha-vm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi all, I'd like to propose a discussion about the workflow of the stable trees when it comes to fs/ and mm/. In the past year we had some friction with regards to the policies and the procedures around picking patches for stable tree, and I feel it would be very useful to establish better flow with the folks who might be attending LSF/MM. I feel that fs/ and mm/ are in very different places with regards to which patches go in -stable, what tests are expected, and the timeline of patches from the point they are proposed on a mailing list to the point they are released in a stable tree. Therefore, I'd like to propose two different sessions on this (one for fs/ and one for mm/), as a common session might be less conductive to agreeing on a path forward as the starting point for both subsystems are somewhat different. We can go through the existing processes, automation, and testing mechanisms we employ when building stable trees, and see how we can improve these to address the concerns of fs/ and mm/ folks. -- Thanks, Sasha