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From:   John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/25] printk: new implementation
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Date:   Wed, 13 Feb 2019 15:43:08 +0100
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On 2019-02-13, Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com> wrote:
>> - A dedicated kernel thread is created for printing to all consoles in
>>   a fully preemptible context.
>
> How do you handle sysrq-<foo> printouts on systems which can't
> schedule printk-kthread?

If those sysrq printouts are at the emergency loglevel (which most are),
then they are printed immediately to the emergency consoles. This has
already proved useful for our own kernel debugging work. For example,
currently sysrq-z for very large traces result in messages being dropped
because of printk buffer overflows. But with the emergency console we
always see the full trace buffer.

Because you have already done so much work and experimentation with
printk-kthreads, I feel like many of your comments are related to your
kthread work in this area. Really the big design change I make with my
printk-kthread is that it is only for non-critical messages. For
anything critical, users should rely on an emergency console.

John Ogness