Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:21:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:21:30 -0400 Received: from zeus.kernel.org ([209.10.41.242]:43725 "EHLO zeus.kernel.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:21:21 -0400 From: "Richard A. Smith" To: "adrian@humboldt.co.uk" Cc: "andre@linux-ide.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "Padraig Brady" , "Steffen Grunewald" Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 16:19:25 -0500 Reply-To: "Richard A. Smith" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2030) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: <3AC8E633.9070503@humboldt.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cool Road Runner (was CFA as Ide.) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Return-Path: RSmith@bitworks.com Message-ID: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 21:50:59 +0100, Adrian Cox wrote: >> IIRC SanDisk was the original people to come out with IDE CFA and everyone >> else just copied them. I have the SanDisk datasheets that I can send you >> if you need them to verify stuff. I believe that if you verify it with >> the SanDisk then all the other MFG's should work as well. > >If only. In my limited experience SanDisk cards have been the most >tolerant. I suspect that Sandisk actually implement the full range of >timings documented in the spec, and nobody else bothers. > >This isn't normally a problem on PC hardware, but if you try to >implement an interface to talk to a CF card in an embedded system you >find this out. Hmmm... most of our embedded systems are based on a PC somehow either via a processor card or an actual PC system that we design so perhaps I have't stressed the limits yet. We do actually use SST (Silcon Storage Technolog) CF's as well and they seem to function just identical to the SanDisk but not quite as robust... I have had several of the SST's develope a problem in the partition table and as thus the just error when you try to mount them. Several people on the liunx-embedded list also have similar experiences. That seems to follow your observations... Will it be worth while for you if I break out the scope and examine how our CF's handle the PDIAG signal or can we just go on faith that they do indeed work as expected? -- Richard A. Smith Bitworks, Inc. rsmith@bitworks.com 501.846.5777 Sr. Design Engineer http://www.bitworks.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/