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received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: fb.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1 x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: 0iCJsb4E1QoS2hWr8aWlv56zHcJmlu8POwHYBKeXSy+WZbqNLgdy51LX62NgoBAgX+CMMWa5PowWYrgkj0/3grtcF5scY0f/ISZxXxBkc628sn+7zeJ4v6Y8ilCvUQqz+yiwF4fqpAVf82SdQwHBccgbCyvFsayTxU5z8wwQ2WExA0BNtbZ9NPEYImkSYhb0NKu8za+O+jwbXd8Ww4kpelxXkVNig0iCrlsNr82H+3FYIv5QcGpecykMnq4V0KhumVXhr0Xn5Q19BN3c9A6GT5Tuhzd8LGxuDZ0b2mQe7rQRJZmQNtucymAb5NMASoig1RLW7Thhnesqyt8UuzRmM8MV9zXA15lc6XQ69FeZ4m8md5oKIADG9/jKCOGNpLGp5X+FdStSScmjZal5FZLlduzCHEqxMPBjw7bzW7aI4og= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <718ACE7EF7B1CF4A96BD95DBBF6775A8@namprd15.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: d83880da-2680-45b5-c2ae-08d6936db93f X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 15 Feb 2019 17:47:58.7194 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 8ae927fe-1255-47a7-a2af-5f3a069daaa2 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: MWHPR15MB1519 X-OriginatorOrg: fb.com X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:,, definitions=2019-02-15_13:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Reason: safe X-FB-Internal: Safe Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > On Feb 15, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo w= rote: >=20 > Em Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 05:25:01PM +0000, Song Liu escreveu: >>> On Feb 15, 2019, at 6:26 AM, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo = wrote: >>> Em Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 04:00:09PM -0800, Song Liu escreveu: >>>> This patch enables perf-record to save btf information as headers to >>>> perf.data A new header type HEADER_BTF is introduced for this data. >=20 >>> Wouldn't it be better for this HEADER_BTF to be introduced >>> already as an user space event, Song, see: >=20 >>> tools/perf/util/event.h >=20 >>> and: >=20 >>> tools/perf/util/event.c >=20 >>> perf_event__synthesize_cpu_map() >=20 >> BTF would be short living for short living BPF programs. I guess=20 >> saving them as header is easier than merging them with samples.=20 >=20 >> What's the benefit of saving them as user space events? >=20 > When we work with pipe mode, i.e.: >=20 > perf record -o - | perf report -i - >=20 > and other combinations (with 'perf script', 'perf inject', etc), we need > a way to pass the headers to the other side, and the way was via user > space events. >=20 > This is something Stephane and Jiri have been discussing recently, > probably they have more justifications, Stephane, Jiri? >=20 > - Arnaldo I see. In this case, we will need some synchronization between main thread and the polling thread, as they are both writing to the same pipe.=20 Thanks, Song