Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263137AbUCMRI5 (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:08:57 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263142AbUCMRI5 (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:08:57 -0500 Received: from hermes.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.202.12]:5862 "HELO hermes.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S263137AbUCMRIr (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:08:47 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 18:08:40 +0100 From: Adrian Bunk To: Matt Mackall Cc: Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Bloat report 2.6.3 -> 2.6.4 Message-ID: <20040313170839.GV14833@fs.tum.de> References: <20040312204458.GJ20174@waste.org> <20040312152206.61604447.akpm@osdl.org> <20040312235349.GK20174@waste.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040312235349.GK20174@waste.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2227 Lines: 63 On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 05:53:49PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 03:22:06PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > Matt Mackall wrote: > > > > > > 2.6.3 -> 2.6.4 > > > > > > text data bss dec hex filename > > > 3313135 660247 162472 4135854 3f1bae vmlinux-2.6.3-c2.6.3 > > > 3342019 664154 162344 4168517 3f9b45 vmlinux-2.6.4-c2.6.3 > > > > > > [ Results of size . -c2.6.3 means both kernel images were built > > > with the 2.6.3 defconfig. > > > > But defconfig was changed between 2.6.3 and 2.6.4. > > Yes, and I'm attempting to compensate for that because defconfig > changes tend to overwhelm other stuff in the results. > > My strategy here doesn't work as well as I'd hoped. I'm taking the > defconfig from the previous kernel and then running yes "" | make > oldconfig, which sets any new symbols to their defaults. So this deals > with case where existing symbols change defaults, but doesn't address > new symbols at all. > > And what's happening with some of the new symbols is that they're off > in defconfig but on in Kconfig. So I need to come up with a way to > take the old defconfig and merge in new symbols from the new > defconfig. Then throw it at make oldconfig to drop out any obsolete > symbols. You have to realize that your "automated scheme to measure the growth of the kernel" doesn't work as you might have expected. As an example, consider the following option gets added: config ACPI_NEW_OPTION bool "new option" depends on ACPI default y help This option adds support for $new_feature. It enlarges your kernel by about 100k. It's save to say Y. In your size metric, this option would be pure "bloat". cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/