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Date:   Tue, 26 Feb 2019 10:45:37 +0100
From:   Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To:     John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 10/25] printk: redirect emit/store to new
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On Mon 2019-02-25 17:41:50, John Ogness wrote:
> On 2019-02-25, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
> >> >> vprintk_emit and vprintk_store are the main functions that all printk
> >> >> variants eventually go through. Change these to store the message in
> >> >> the new printk ring buffer that the printk kthread is reading.
> >> >
> >> > Please, are there any candidates or plans to reuse the new ring
> >> > buffer implementation?
> >> 
> >> As you pointed out below, this patch already uses the ring buffer
> >> implementation for a totally different purpose: NMI safe dynamic memory
> >> allocation.
> >
> > I have found an alternative solution. We could calculate the length
> > of the formatted string without any buffer:
> >
> > 	va_list args_copy;
> >
> > 	va_copy(args_copy, args);
> > 	len = vscprintf(NULL, fmt, args_copy);
> > 	va_end(args_copy);
> >
> > This vsprintf() mode was implemented for exactly this purpose.
> 
> For vprintk_emit() that would work. As you will see in later (patch 23),
> the sprint_rb ringbuffer is used for dynamic memory allocation for
> kmsg_dump functions as well.

It looks dangerous to share a limited buffer between core kernel
functionality and user-space triggered one. I mean that an unlimited
number of devkmsg operations must not cause loosing printk() messages.

> The current printk implementation allows readers to read directly from
> the ringbuffer. The proposed ringbuffer requires the reader (printk) to
> have its own buffers.
> 
> We may be able to find an alternate solution here as well if that is
> desired.

I hope that we will be able to find one. The previous implementation
needed some buffers as well. We should be able to use the same
approach.

I guess that one problem is that the new ringbuffer API is not
able to copy just the text directly into the user-provided buffer.
It might get solved by extending the API.

Anyway, I still have to look at the remaining patches.

Best Regards,
Petr