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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 39si4353899pla.214.2019.03.07.08.39.36; Thu, 07 Mar 2019 08:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726305AbfCGQiy (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 7 Mar 2019 11:38:54 -0500 Received: from mga09.intel.com ([134.134.136.24]:23853 "EHLO mga09.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726166AbfCGQiy (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Mar 2019 11:38:54 -0500 X-Amp-Result: UNSCANNABLE X-Amp-File-Uploaded: False Received: from fmsmga004.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.48]) by orsmga102.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 07 Mar 2019 08:38:53 -0800 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.58,451,1544515200"; d="scan'208";a="150217459" Received: from iweiny-desk2.sc.intel.com ([10.3.52.157]) by fmsmga004.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 07 Mar 2019 08:38:52 -0800 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 00:37:17 -0800 From: Ira Weiny To: john.hubbard@gmail.com Cc: Andrew Morton , linux-mm@kvack.org, Al Viro , Christian Benvenuti , Christoph Hellwig , Christopher Lameter , Dan Williams , Dave Chinner , Dennis Dalessandro , Doug Ledford , Jan Kara , Jason Gunthorpe , Jerome Glisse , Matthew Wilcox , Michal Hocko , Mike Rapoport , Mike Marciniszyn , Ralph Campbell , Tom Talpey , LKML , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, John Hubbard Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/1] mm: introduce put_user_page*(), placeholder versions Message-ID: <20190307083716.GA21304@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com> References: <20190306235455.26348-1-jhubbard@nvidia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20190306235455.26348-1-jhubbard@nvidia.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 03:54:54PM -0800, john.hubbard@gmail.com wrote: > From: John Hubbard > > Hi Andrew and all, > > Can we please apply this (destined for 5.2) once the time is right? > (I see that -mm just got merged into the main tree today.) > > We seem to have pretty solid consensus on the concept and details of the > put_user_pages() approach. Or at least, if we don't, someone please speak > up now. Christopher Lameter, especially, since you had some concerns > recently. > > Therefore, here is the first patch--only. This allows us to begin > converting the get_user_pages() call sites to use put_user_page(), instead > of put_page(). This is in order to implement tracking of get_user_page() > pages. > > Normally I'd include a user of this code, but in this case, I think we have > examples of how it will work in the RFC and related discussions [1]. What > matters more at this point is unblocking the ability to start fixing up > various subsystems, through git trees other than linux-mm. For example, the > Infiniband example conversion now needs to pick up some prerequisite > patches via the RDMA tree. It seems likely that other call sites may need > similar attention, and so having put_user_pages() available would really > make this go more quickly. > FWIW I agree with John. Ira > > Previous cover letter follows: > ============================== > > A discussion of the overall problem is below. > > As mentioned in patch 0001, the steps are to fix the problem are: > > 1) Provide put_user_page*() routines, intended to be used > for releasing pages that were pinned via get_user_pages*(). > > 2) Convert all of the call sites for get_user_pages*(), to > invoke put_user_page*(), instead of put_page(). This involves dozens of > call sites, and will take some time. > > 3) After (2) is complete, use get_user_pages*() and put_user_page*() to > implement tracking of these pages. This tracking will be separate from > the existing struct page refcounting. > > 4) Use the tracking and identification of these pages, to implement > special handling (especially in writeback paths) when the pages are > backed by a filesystem. > > Overview > ======== > > Some kernel components (file systems, device drivers) need to access > memory that is specified via process virtual address. For a long time, the > API to achieve that was get_user_pages ("GUP") and its variations. However, > GUP has critical limitations that have been overlooked; in particular, GUP > does not interact correctly with filesystems in all situations. That means > that file-backed memory + GUP is a recipe for potential problems, some of > which have already occurred in the field. > > GUP was first introduced for Direct IO (O_DIRECT), allowing filesystem code > to get the struct page behind a virtual address and to let storage hardware > perform a direct copy to or from that page. This is a short-lived access > pattern, and as such, the window for a concurrent writeback of GUP'd page > was small enough that there were not (we think) any reported problems. > Also, userspace was expected to understand and accept that Direct IO was > not synchronized with memory-mapped access to that data, nor with any > process address space changes such as munmap(), mremap(), etc. > > Over the years, more GUP uses have appeared (virtualization, device > drivers, RDMA) that can keep the pages they get via GUP for a long period > of time (seconds, minutes, hours, days, ...). This long-term pinning makes > an underlying design problem more obvious. > > In fact, there are a number of key problems inherent to GUP: > > Interactions with file systems > ============================== > > File systems expect to be able to write back data, both to reclaim pages, > and for data integrity. Allowing other hardware (NICs, GPUs, etc) to gain > write access to the file memory pages means that such hardware can dirty > the pages, without the filesystem being aware. This can, in some cases > (depending on filesystem, filesystem options, block device, block device > options, and other variables), lead to data corruption, and also to kernel > bugs of the form: > > kernel BUG at /build/linux-fQ94TU/linux-4.4.0/fs/ext4/inode.c:1899! > backtrace: > ext4_writepage > __writepage > write_cache_pages > ext4_writepages > do_writepages > __writeback_single_inode > writeback_sb_inodes > __writeback_inodes_wb > wb_writeback > wb_workfn > process_one_work > worker_thread > kthread > ret_from_fork > > ...which is due to the file system asserting that there are still buffer > heads attached: > > ({ \ > BUG_ON(!PagePrivate(page)); \ > ((struct buffer_head *)page_private(page)); \ > }) > > Dave Chinner's description of this is very clear: > > "The fundamental issue is that ->page_mkwrite must be called on every > write access to a clean file backed page, not just the first one. > How long the GUP reference lasts is irrelevant, if the page is clean > and you need to dirty it, you must call ->page_mkwrite before it is > marked writeable and dirtied. Every. Time." > > This is just one symptom of the larger design problem: filesystems do not > actually support get_user_pages() being called on their pages, and letting > hardware write directly to those pages--even though that pattern has been > going on since about 2005 or so. > > Long term GUP > ============= > > Long term GUP is an issue when FOLL_WRITE is specified to GUP (so, a > writeable mapping is created), and the pages are file-backed. That can lead > to filesystem corruption. What happens is that when a file-backed page is > being written back, it is first mapped read-only in all of the CPU page > tables; the file system then assumes that nobody can write to the page, and > that the page content is therefore stable. Unfortunately, the GUP callers > generally do not monitor changes to the CPU pages tables; they instead > assume that the following pattern is safe (it's not): > > get_user_pages() > > Hardware can keep a reference to those pages for a very long time, > and write to it at any time. Because "hardware" here means "devices > that are not a CPU", this activity occurs without any interaction > with the kernel's file system code. > > for each page > set_page_dirty > put_page() > > In fact, the GUP documentation even recommends that pattern. > > Anyway, the file system assumes that the page is stable (nothing is writing > to the page), and that is a problem: stable page content is necessary for > many filesystem actions during writeback, such as checksum, encryption, > RAID striping, etc. Furthermore, filesystem features like COW (copy on > write) or snapshot also rely on being able to use a new page for as memory > for that memory range inside the file. > > Corruption during write back is clearly possible here. To solve that, one > idea is to identify pages that have active GUP, so that we can use a bounce > page to write stable data to the filesystem. The filesystem would work > on the bounce page, while any of the active GUP might write to the > original page. This would avoid the stable page violation problem, but note > that it is only part of the overall solution, because other problems > remain. > > Other filesystem features that need to replace the page with a new one can > be inhibited for pages that are GUP-pinned. This will, however, alter and > limit some of those filesystem features. The only fix for that would be to > require GUP users to monitor and respond to CPU page table updates. > Subsystems such as ODP and HMM do this, for example. This aspect of the > problem is still under discussion. > > Direct IO > ========= > > Direct IO can cause corruption, if userspace does Direct-IO that writes to > a range of virtual addresses that are mmap'd to a file. The pages written > to are file-backed pages that can be under write back, while the Direct IO > is taking place. Here, Direct IO races with a write back: it calls > GUP before page_mkclean() has replaced the CPU pte with a read-only entry. > The race window is pretty small, which is probably why years have gone by > before we noticed this problem: Direct IO is generally very quick, and > tends to finish up before the filesystem gets around to do anything with > the page contents. However, it's still a real problem. The solution is > to never let GUP return pages that are under write back, but instead, > force GUP to take a write fault on those pages. That way, GUP will > properly synchronize with the active write back. This does not change the > required GUP behavior, it just avoids that race. > > Changes since v2: > > * Reduced down to just one patch, in order to avoid dependencies between > subsystem git repos. > > * Rebased to latest linux.git: commit afe6fe7036c6 ("Merge tag > 'armsoc-late' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/soc/soc") > > * Added Ira's review tag, based on > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20190215002312.GC7512@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com/ > > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20190208075649.3025-3-jhubbard@nvidia.com > (RFC v2: mm: gup/dma tracking) > > Cc: Christian Benvenuti > Cc: Christoph Hellwig > Cc: Christopher Lameter > Cc: Dan Williams > Cc: Dave Chinner > Cc: Dennis Dalessandro > Cc: Doug Ledford > Cc: Ira Weiny > Cc: Jan Kara > Cc: Jason Gunthorpe > Cc: J?r?me Glisse > Cc: Matthew Wilcox > Cc: Michal Hocko > Cc: Mike Rapoport > Cc: Mike Marciniszyn > Cc: Ralph Campbell > Cc: Tom Talpey > > > John Hubbard (1): > mm: introduce put_user_page*(), placeholder versions > > include/linux/mm.h | 24 ++++++++++++++ > mm/swap.c | 82 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > 2 files changed, 106 insertions(+) > > -- > 2.21.0 >