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Fri, 08 Mar 2019 10:34:33 +0000 Received: from linux by shell.armlinux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h2Cph-0005gp-E9; Fri, 08 Mar 2019 10:34:29 +0000 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:34:29 +0000 From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin To: Ard Biesheuvel Cc: Mikael Pettersson , Mikael Pettersson , Arnd Bergmann , Peter Zijlstra , Nick Desaulniers , LKML , Ingo Molnar , Darren Hart , Thomas Gleixner , Dave Martin , Linux ARM Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ARM: futex: make futex_detect_cmpxchg more reliable Message-ID: <20190308103429.ycasmpt6tcpsoqps@shell.armlinux.org.uk> References: <20190307091514.2489338-1-arnd@arndb.de> <20190307091514.2489338-2-arnd@arndb.de> <20190307234850.nsbpkfcit3lnmytu@shell.armlinux.org.uk> <20190308095308.hjjrzdp4fzbbtnnv@shell.armlinux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 11:08:40AM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote: > On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 10:53, Russell King - ARM Linux admin > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 09:57:45AM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote: > > > On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 00:49, Russell King - ARM Linux admin > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 11:39:08AM -0800, Nick Desaulniers wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 1:15 AM Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Passing registers containing zero as both the address (NULL pointer) > > > > > > and data into cmpxchg_futex_value_locked() leads clang to assign > > > > > > the same register for both inputs on ARM, which triggers a warning > > > > > > explaining that this instruction has unpredictable behavior on ARMv5. > > > > > > > > > > > > /tmp/futex-7e740e.s: Assembler messages: > > > > > > /tmp/futex-7e740e.s:12713: Warning: source register same as write-back base > > > > > > > > > > > > This patch was suggested by Mikael Pettersson back in 2011 (!) with gcc-4.4, > > > > > > as Mikael wrote: > > > > > > "One way of fixing this is to make uaddr an input/output register, since > > > > > > "that prevents it from overlapping any other input or output." > > > > > > > > > > > > but then withdrawn as the warning was determined to be harmless, and it > > > > > > apparently never showed up again with later gcc versions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the same problem is back when compiling with clang, and we are trying > > > > > > to get clang to build the kernel without warnings, as gcc normally does. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Mikael Pettersson > > > > > > Cc: Mikael Pettersson > > > > > > Cc: Dave Martin > > > > > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20009.45690.158286.161591@pilspetsen.it.uu.se/ > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Arnd Bergmann > > > > > > --- > > > > > > arch/arm/include/asm/futex.h | 10 +++++----- > > > > > > 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) > > > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/arch/arm/include/asm/futex.h b/arch/arm/include/asm/futex.h > > > > > > index 0a46676b4245..79790912974e 100644 > > > > > > --- a/arch/arm/include/asm/futex.h > > > > > > +++ b/arch/arm/include/asm/futex.h > > > > > > @@ -110,13 +110,13 @@ futex_atomic_cmpxchg_inatomic(u32 *uval, u32 __user *uaddr, > > > > > > preempt_disable(); > > > > > > __ua_flags = uaccess_save_and_enable(); > > > > > > __asm__ __volatile__("@futex_atomic_cmpxchg_inatomic\n" > > > > > > - "1: " TUSER(ldr) " %1, [%4]\n" > > > > > > - " teq %1, %2\n" > > > > > > + "1: " TUSER(ldr) " %1, [%2]\n" > > > > > > + " teq %1, %3\n" > > > > > > " it eq @ explicit IT needed for the 2b label\n" > > > > > > - "2: " TUSER(streq) " %3, [%4]\n" > > > > > > + "2: " TUSER(streq) " %4, [%2]\n" > > > > > > __futex_atomic_ex_table("%5") > > > > > > - : "+r" (ret), "=&r" (val) > > > > > > - : "r" (oldval), "r" (newval), "r" (uaddr), "Ir" (-EFAULT) > > > > > > + : "+&r" (ret), "=&r" (val), "+&r" (uaddr) > > > > > > + : "r" (oldval), "r" (newval), "Ir" (-EFAULT) > > > > > > : "cc", "memory"); > > > > > > uaccess_restore(__ua_flags); > > > > > > > > > > Underspecification of constraints to extended inline assembly is a > > > > > common issue exposed by other compilers (and possibly but in-effect > > > > > infrequently compiler upgrades). > > > > > So the reordering of the constraints means the in the assembly (notes > > > > > for other reviewers): > > > > > %2 -> %3 > > > > > %3 -> %4 > > > > > %4 -> %2 > > > > > Yep, looks good to me, thanks for finding this old patch and resending, Arnd! > > > > > > > > I don't see what is "underspecified" in the original constraints. > > > > Please explain. > > > > > > > > > > I agree that that statement makes little sense. > > > > > > As Russell points out in the referenced thread, there is nothing wrong > > > with the generated assembly, given that the UNPREDICTABLE opcode is > > > unreachable in practice. Unfortunately, we have no way to flag this > > > diagnostic as a known false positive, and AFAICT, there is no reason > > > we couldn't end up with the same diagnostic popping up for GCC builds > > > in the future, considering that the register assignment matches the > > > constraints. (We have seen somewhat similar issues where constant > > > folded function clones are emitted with a constant argument that could > > > never occur in reality [0]) > > > > > > Given the above, the only meaningful way to invoke this function is > > > with different registers assigned to %3 and %4, and so tightening the > > > constraints to guarantee that does not actually result in worse code > > > (except maybe for the instantiations that we won't ever call in the > > > first place). So I think we should fix this. > > > > > > I wonder if just adding > > > > > > BUG_ON(__builtin_constant_p(uaddr)); > > > > > > at the beginning makes any difference - this shouldn't result in any > > > object code differences since the conditional will always evaluate to > > > false at build time for instantiations we care about. > > > > > > > > > [0] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/9c74d635-d0d1-0893-8093-ce20b0933fc7@redhat.com/ > > > > What I'm actually asking is: > > > > The GCC manual says that input operands _may_ overlap output operands > > since GCC assumes that input operands are consumed before output > > operands are written. This is an explicit statement. > > > > The GCC manual does not say that input operands may overlap with each > > other, and the behaviour of GCC thus far (apart from one version, > > presumably caused by a bug) has been that input operands are unique. > > > > Not entirely. I have run into issues where GCC assumes that registers > that are only used for input operands are left untouched by the asm > code. I.e., if you put an asm() block in a loop and modify an input > register, your code may break on the next pass, even if the input > register does not overlap with an output register. GCC has had the expectation for decades that _input_ operands are not changed in value by the code in the assembly. This isn't quite the same thing as the uniqueness of the register allocation for input operands. > To me, that seems to suggest that whether or not inputs may overlap is > irrelevant, since they are not expected to be modified. How is: stmfd sp!, {r0-r3, ip, lr} bl foo ldmfd sp!, {r0-r3, ip, lr} where r1 may be an input operand (to pass an argument to foo) any different from: ldrt r0, [r1] as far as whether r1 is modified in both cases? In both cases, the value of r1 is read and written by both instructions, but in both cases the value of r1 remains the same no matter what the value of r1 was. The "input operands should not be modified" is entirely orthogonal to the input operand register allocation. > > Clang appears to be different: it allows input operands that are > > registers, and contain the same constant value to be the same physical > > register. > > > > The assertion is that the constraints are under-specified. I am > > questioning that assertion. > > > > If the constraints are under-specified, I would have expected gcc-4.4's > > behaviour to have persisted, and we would've been told by gcc's > > developers to fix our code. That didn't happen, and instead gcc seems > > to have been fixed. So, my conclusion is that it is intentional that > > input operands to asm() do not overlap with themselves. > > > > Whether we hit the error or not is not deterministic. Like in the > ilog2() case I quoted, GCC may decide to instantiate a constant folded > ['curried', if you will] clone of a function, and so even if any calls > to futex_atomic_cmpxchg_inatomic() with constant NULL args for newval > and uaddr are compiled, it does not mean they occur like that in the C > code. Again, I think this is different: gcc knows what the C code is doing and can optimise it. GCC doesn't have any idea what the code in an asm() is doing beyond what the constraints are telling it, and the rules for those constraints set out in the GCC manual. Given that we are explicitly talking about the register allocation for input operands, I'm not sure how the ilog2() case you mention applies. > > It seems to me that the work-around for clang is to change every input > > operand to be an output operand with a "+&r" contraint - an operand > > that is both read and written by the "instruction", and that the operand > > is "earlyclobber". For something that is really only read, that seems > > strange. > > > > Also, reading GCC's manual, it would appear that "+&" is wrong. > > > > `+' > > Means that this operand is both read and written by the > > instruction. > > > > When the compiler fixes up the operands to satisfy the constraints, > > it needs to know which operands are inputs to the instruction and > > which are outputs from it. `=' identifies an output; `+' > > identifies an operand that is both input and output; all other > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > operands are assumed to be input only. > > > > `&' > > Means (in a particular alternative) that this operand is an > > "earlyclobber" operand, which is modified before the instruction is > > finished using the input operands. Therefore, this operand may > > not lie in a register that is used as an input operand or as part > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > of any memory address. > > > > So "+" says that this operand is an input but "&" says that it must not > > be in a register that is used as an input. That's contradictory, and I > > think we can expect GCC to barf or at least end up doing strange stuff, > > if not with existing versions, then with future versions. > > > > I wondered about the same thing: given that the asm itself is a black > box to the compiler, it can never reuse an in/output register for > output, so when it is clobbered is irrelevant. Let me try again - you seem to have completely missed my point. + specifies that the operand is an input. & specifies that the operand is not an input. + and & are contradictory. GCC is at liberty to not assign a value to an operand with a +& modifier, or error out such a construction. > > > Hence, I'm asking for clarification why it is thought that the existing > > code underspecifies the asm constraints, and I'm trying to get some more > > thought about what the constraints should be, in case there is a need to > > use "better" constraints. > > I think the constraints are correct, but as I argued before, > tightening the constraints to ensure that uaddr and newval are not > mapped onto the same register should not result in any object code > changes, except for the case where the compiler instantiated a > constprop clone that is bogus to begin with. ... by tightening it to an undefined combination of constraint modifiers that just happens to seem to do the right thing. No, this is not proper "engineering". This is bodging. -- RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line in suburbia: sync at 12.1Mbps down 622kbps up According to speedtest.net: 11.9Mbps down 500kbps up