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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 9si13321914plc.121.2019.03.14.00.35.26; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 00:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=temperror (no key for signature) header.i=@szeredi.hu header.s=google header.b=PbQzOVrv; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727161AbfCNHeq (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 14 Mar 2019 03:34:46 -0400 Received: from mail-it1-f195.google.com ([209.85.166.195]:40652 "EHLO mail-it1-f195.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726752AbfCNHep (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Mar 2019 03:34:45 -0400 Received: by mail-it1-f195.google.com with SMTP id l139so3132964ita.5 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 00:34:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=szeredi.hu; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5j7xlTpPCfN62y7RLvULhwbqVmECMd1pBios9Gk8yCo=; b=PbQzOVrvNnnL6aGps6qRwBVqplB+yUbNaSKxPEvW9gz2kiMJEZ1k9+A9c3ZFkGNOqq CXzYb6s47WoUkXCoTGy42LFP4KS8bRlHk2F1MvR/WuX9mXdxnF3SvTqqxMOHxGrpdFj5 H4FaJfHcjQIdh5DyFxThUt/qvMR73JWYtEh3s= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5j7xlTpPCfN62y7RLvULhwbqVmECMd1pBios9Gk8yCo=; b=FYMDXxryCldR64NCFfXa/6FK2Mdzes8pV+FTMQy5xLDkPU1i3nHoYz+HuC+dtuylCT KoHcq5N00I3W6bsm7kvjOt+Kppx26oDGuK2uplnk+4pON5xckIpO0tPywq4lXTrYoZS6 hXbz56qBf2/oR0uvh4VAlFL+w/bTNylfOFCTIrtALNiRKhVbKc+8OJ57rxzZ/9hvuT7I 1cbDZwnJkxg6lZ7t7Gz5BNjQrjsBFpiEkj0sB5yO/0V0o+aopOORgvzptmzSNLM7aox1 x4egFUIugiWV/c9O/ZQgmYQJRp6vZXLDpl9TvU74UZAF+vNK75XJ3OWKu1XF1B56ljDl JlKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWAN1MU4WYPv5AjRn6pvi7PMgNxmhK/edJK2JifvE5/xhLkyhZ7 FWew0HvBqOLNRY5goKvQtCx4JxMA0zlsEC2WyZgslg== X-Received: by 2002:a24:1947:: with SMTP id b68mr1054204itb.121.1552548884924; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 00:34:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4603533.ZIfxmiEf7K@blindfold> <15244624.W7e5yEypHC@blindfold> <20190313222610.GF10169@gmail.com> <4098793.CtYQtWW4dM@blindfold> In-Reply-To: <4098793.CtYQtWW4dM@blindfold> From: Miklos Szeredi Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 08:34:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: overlayfs vs. fscrypt To: Richard Weinberger Cc: Eric Biggers , Amir Goldstein , linux-fsdevel , linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, overlayfs , linux-kernel , Paul Lawrence Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:42 PM Richard Weinberger wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 13. M=C3=A4rz 2019, 23:26:11 CET schrieb Eric Biggers: > > What specifically is wrong with supporting the ciphertext "view" of enc= rypted > > directories, and why do you want to opt UBIFS out of it specifically bu= t not > > ext4 and f2fs? (The fscrypt_operations are per-filesystem type, not > > per-filesystem instance, so I assume that's what you had in mind.) Not= e that we > > can't unconditionally remove it because people need it to delete files = without > > the key. We could add a mount option to disable it, but why exactly? > > You are right, fscrypt_operations is the wrong structure. > My plan was having it per filesystem instance. So a mount-option seems li= ke > a good option. Of course for all filesystems that support fscrypt, not ju= st UBIFS. Yes, please. Changing filesystem contents based on a mount option is orders of magnitude more sane than doing so on key insertion/removal. Thanks, Miklos