Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262701AbUCWQPo (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:15:44 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262651AbUCWQPo (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:15:44 -0500 Received: from news.cistron.nl ([62.216.30.38]:40629 "EHLO ncc1701.cistron.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262751AbUCWQPe (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:15:34 -0500 From: "Miquel van Smoorenburg" Subject: Re: Hidden PIDs in /proc Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:15:33 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Cistron Group Message-ID: References: <200403231708.15812.AlberT@agilemovement.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: ncc1701.cistron.net 1080058533 2351 62.216.29.200 (23 Mar 2004 16:15:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@cistron.nl X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: miquels@cistron-office.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg) To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1680 Lines: 42 In article <200403231708.15812.AlberT@agilemovement.it>, Emiliano 'AlberT' Gabrielli wrote: > >Hi all, > > I discovered some "hidden" pid dirs in /proc : > >root@emc2:# ls -lha /proc/ | grep 4673 >root@emc2:# ls -lha /proc/4673/ >totale 0 >dr-xr-xr-x 3 albert albert 0 2004-03-23 17:02 . >dr-xr-xr-x 108 root root 0 2004-03-23 16:10 .. It's just a thread. For a threaded process, only the thread group leader is listed in /proc directly. The other threads are visible under /proc//task (try it). >After 2 days of headhake searching for possible rootkits, reinstalling all the >basic system, libs and so on (from a clean live-CD boot) ... >I noticed that these process seem all to use pthreads ... so, the question is: > >is my problem related/solved by the initramfs-search-for-init-zombie-fix.patch >in the -mm1 tree ?? No, by upgrading to a more recent procps. # ps ax | grep mozilla 16252 ? S 10:21 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin $ ps ax -T | grep moz 16252 16252 ? S 10:21 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin 16252 16264 ? S 0:01 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin 16252 16266 ? S 0:03 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin 16252 21530 ? S 0:00 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin Also note: # ls /proc/16252/task 16252/ 16264/ 16266/ 21530/ Mike. -- Netu, v qba'g yvxr gur cynvagrkg :) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/