Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262698AbUCWRM0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:12:26 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262728AbUCWRM0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:12:26 -0500 Received: from prgy-npn1.prodigy.com ([207.115.54.37]:38287 "EHLO oddball.prodigy.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262698AbUCWRMY (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:12:24 -0500 Message-ID: <406070F9.2070900@tmr.com> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:16:41 -0500 From: Bill Davidsen Organization: TMR Associates User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031208 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Diego_Calleja_Garc=EDa?= CC: Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: OSS: cleanup or throw away References: <1CD8E-65d-33@gated-at.bofh.it> <1CFMG-8wf-61@gated-at.bofh.it> <1CGft-ry-3@gated-at.bofh.it> In-Reply-To: <1CGft-ry-3@gated-at.bofh.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1641 Lines: 37 Diego Calleja Garc?a wrote: > El Mon, 22 Mar 2004 22:57:09 +0100 Adrian Bunk escribi?: > > >>OSS will stay in 2.6 (2.6 is a stable kernel series) but it will most >>likely be removed in 2.7. > > > Personally, as an user, I'd like to have the OSS drivers which don't have > a ALSA equivalent for my old hardware. There're several > sound cards with both ALSA and OSS drivers where ALSA works > much better 99% of the time. Those could be safely removed > (even in the 2.6 timeframe, I'd argue) but I'd like to keep the ones > without an alsa equivalent for my old hardware (specially now that we > have a -tiny tree ;) however I can understand that if they don't > have a maintainer they'll get removed... The real issue with removing OSS from a stable kernel is that a kernel update should not break existing system software (at least compliant software). As of early 2.6 it seemed that you had to update to the ALSA mixer and {something I don't remember} if you used the OSS emulation. I just used OSS and it worked. Based on only two systems, so it may not apply. Stable and install new sound software don't seem to mix well. I suggest that the current course is a good one, keep both systems in the stable kernel. -- -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the last possible moment - but no longer" -me - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/