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From:   Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>
Date:   Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:48:51 -0400
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Subject: Re: pidfd design
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On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 10:44 AM Serge E. Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:29:31PM -0700, Daniel Colascione wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:52 AM Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io> wrote:
> > > I really want to see Joel's pidfd_wait() patchset and have more people
> > > review the actual code.
> >
> > Sure. But it's also unpleasant to have people write code and then have
> > to throw it away due to guessing incorrectly about unclear
> > requirements.
>
> No, it is not.  It is not unpleasant.  And it is useful.  It is the best way to
> identify and resolve those incorrect guesses and unclear requirements.

No problem, a bit of discussion helped set the direction. Personally
it did help clarify lot of things for me.  We are hard at work with
come up with an implementation and are looking at posting something
soon. I agree that the best is to discuss on actual code where
possible.