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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h14si18072851pgg.377.2019.03.27.04.21.36; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 04:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1732499AbfC0LVA (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 27 Mar 2019 07:21:00 -0400 Received: from foss.arm.com ([217.140.101.70]:52884 "EHLO foss.arm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726241AbfC0LVA (ORCPT ); Wed, 27 Mar 2019 07:21:00 -0400 Received: from usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (unknown [10.72.51.249]) by usa-sjc-mx-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B24A78; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 04:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from e107981-ln.cambridge.arm.com (e107981-ln.cambridge.arm.com [10.1.197.40]) by usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33E8F3F557; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 04:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 11:20:52 +0000 From: Lorenzo Pieralisi To: David Woodhouse Cc: Jonathan Chocron , linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vaerov@amazon.com, benh@kernel.crashing.org, alisaidi@amazon.com, zeev@amazon.com, ronenk@amazon.com, barakw@amazon.com, Gustavo Pimentel , Zhou Wang Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] PCI: al: Add Amazon Annapurna Labs PCIe host controller driver Message-ID: <20190327112052.GA8331@e107981-ln.cambridge.arm.com> References: <1553512040-4453-1-git-send-email-jonnyc@amazon.com> <1553594455-30436-1-git-send-email-jonnyc@amazon.com> <20190326121727.GA4171@e107981-ln.cambridge.arm.com> <07838dad0e0cdb14c42080ef19c11829f72c8814.camel@infradead.org> <20190326155837.GA8820@e107981-ln.cambridge.arm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 09:52:15AM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 15:58 +0000, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote: > > > We did that internally. You really don't want me telling engineers to > > > post to the list *first* without running things by me to get the basics > > > right. Not to start with, at least. > > > > Hi David, > > > > I am obviously in favour of internal review and I do not question it was > > carried out internally, I just kindly ask developers to drop review tags > > given internally when going to public mailing lists - I understand it is > > churn for you but I prefer them to be given explicitly. > > Sure, I've provided mine in public now. > > I will attempt to remember your preference, although I'm not sure I > think it's necessary. > > What's the failure mode we're protecting against here? That my > engineers are lying and have *faked* my reviewed-by tag? > > Don't you think I'd *eat* them if I ever found that happening? As I wrote above, I did not question the internal review process at all, we do internal review at ARM too in preparation for posting publicly but I think the patches review should take place on public mailing lists and tags should be given accordingly, that's it. You may see it as churn, fair enough, it is not a big deal either. > What's next? That you only accept such tags in signed email, so that > the dishonest engineer in question can't *fake* an email from me to the > list? They know I'm afflicted by Exchange so they can always send that > fake message with a message-id matching another message they know is > already in my inbox, so Exchange will helpfully discard theirs. :) There is nothing next :) - I just would like to see patches discussions and reviews taking place on linux-pci@vger.kernel.org for PCI patches, I do not think I am asking too much. Thanks, Lorenzo