Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262050AbUC1BJ5 (ORCPT ); Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:09:57 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262052AbUC1BJ5 (ORCPT ); Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:09:57 -0500 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:14263 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262050AbUC1BJy (ORCPT ); Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:09:54 -0500 Message-ID: <406625D4.7090605@pobox.com> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:09:40 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030703 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Morton CC: nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] speed up SATA References: <4066021A.20308@pobox.com> <40661049.1050004@yahoo.com.au> <406611CA.3050804@pobox.com> <406616EE.80301@pobox.com> <4066191E.4040702@yahoo.com.au> <40662108.40705@pobox.com> <20040327170257.24c82915.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <20040327170257.24c82915.akpm@osdl.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1157 Lines: 34 Andrew Morton wrote: > Jeff Garzik wrote: > >> TCQ-on-write for ATA disks is yummy because you don't really know what >> the heck the ATA disk is writing at the present time. By the time the >> Linux disk scheduler gets around to deciding it has a nicely merged and >> scheduled set of requests, it may be totally wrong for the disk's IO >> scheduler. TCQ gives the disk a lot more power when the disk integrates >> writes into its internal IO scheduling. > > > Slightly beneficial for throughput, disastrous for latency. If the disk is smart there are surely opportunities for latency optimization as well... > It appears the only way we'll ever get this gross misdesign fixed is to add > a latency test to winbench. rotfl ;-) True that... "IOPs" are what make a lot of storage peeps excited these days, so they are being pushed in a low-latency direction anyway. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/