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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:31:10 +1000
From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
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Subject: Re: [Lse-tech] [patch] sched-domain cleanups, sched-2.6.5-rc2-mm2-A3
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Martin J. Bligh wrote:
>>We are not going to go back to the wild balancing that
>>numasched does (I have some benchmarks where sched-domains
>>reduces cross node task movement by several orders of
>>magnitude). 
> 
> 
> Agreed, I think that'd be a fatal mistake ...
> 
> 
>>So the other option is to do balance on clone
>>across NUMA nodes, and make it very sensitive to imbalance.
>>Or probably better to make it easy to balance off to an idle
>>CPU, but much more difficult to balance off to a busy CPU.
> 
> 
> I think that's correct, but we need to be careful. We really, really 
> do want to try to keep threads on the same node *if* we have enough 
> processes around to keep the machine busy. Because we don't balance
> on fork, we make a reasonable job of that today, but we should probably
> be more reluctant on rebalance than we are.
> 
> It's when we have less processes than nodes that we want to spread things 
> around. That's a difficult balance to strike (and exactly why I wimped 
> out on it originally ;-)).
> 

Well NUMA balance on exec is obviously the right thing to do.

Maybe balance on clone would be beneficial if we only balance onto
CPUs which are idle or very very imbalanced. Basically, if you are
very sure that it is going to be balanced off anyway, it is probably
better to do it at clone.
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