Received: by 2002:a25:4158:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id o85csp6090717yba; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 11:52:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxUAujBwT9gtrUvrV4Fl8QCAhudMwU2BXOz55XDJtY2dq0QCABpL/t2FwNJVmLlthuwYTE8 X-Received: by 2002:a63:c505:: with SMTP id f5mr49377722pgd.87.1555008728347; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 11:52:08 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1555008728; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=mBgoPJ4a5rx+smJudCnd8xSezv6iTAp5rCBqUxkDdPyz2M7RDILcY2tn74ELFISuff SBCv0UrdOfzeuiykZcS0durf2MzmRZ+BaAOTaD1xAHLmk6psCAWma1hEu98cHXid73SN DPa0ZlTxVkAHfcE3hHI2deQQueaJpAcDTy0C14S3S/CkoMOXuFZu3D4dyh3xuM+ycYsZ acxUYgh/QJpI1E2LyDfWEGgE/21CtOmINrD95OlbQtI+qq3kIuzctitKUD31p2l+Vobg vSlTp+y/Ur3oPCzNMH2HgFSndngzoQLaoEx7vL8naXC3+aTrHRt/Ujv0gwdI3E5HKZTB umjQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :organization:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from :date; bh=6atNgepkZKGMlM/p47d8XxLq035vAs9BPCQsOAOt1Yk=; b=iXCTKQgjQcZV/zL1V3jzfoi3zj8bZVOjTAyOLCfLSMCkPTKSHuxRPOmMN55zKzZzhq 2LTg8xUlsZcpTrHMO/GU99lkq+fVnKy1vlOPHvJOxvYUKsWHtOhwk5u88IznPxxNGozn 7cAR4uw+8pa9+zLps82TNLavbLGWvPOC1YlvDuB/Qke6GHoRunt92o95QJMENJBMyQxS Dt3aFZd9Xf6RXVQDcSkKfVAI3xaN4PC36WI3KXXcuoFCRsf7N9MgMM6J9GAO+wzuFlEI Lv4ACw/+nlrN7sBBRCeJz+LgLMh7YD2degwmqPW+KUcEA9ijMNxSUFsEIZ3kLolnyDFL 8y8Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id p5si3900081plo.273.2019.04.11.11.51.52; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 11:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726907AbfDKStI (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:49:08 -0400 Received: from ms.lwn.net ([45.79.88.28]:38868 "EHLO ms.lwn.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726677AbfDKStG (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:49:06 -0400 Received: from lwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ms.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 923002F3; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 18:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 12:49:04 -0600 From: Jonathan Corbet To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab Cc: Linux Doc Mailing List , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] Add all documentation files to an html/pdf produced book Message-ID: <20190411124904.12e61bc7@lwn.net> In-Reply-To: <20190410064939.2a9dca9a@coco.lan> References: <20190408161820.6a12657f@lwn.net> <20190410064939.2a9dca9a@coco.lan> Organization: LWN.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 06:49:39 -0300 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: [I'm just responding to one little piece of this for the moment...] > In any case, IMHO, the best would be to add a new > crap^h^h^h^hstaging group were we could place all legacy random stuff. > Then, gradually fix those, splitting stuff and promoting them to the > main books, in a similar way to what we do with staging. Now that's an interesting idea; I hadn't thought about that. Doing so, though, implies a willingness to stage unloved docs *out*, and my experience is that there is little appetite for that. It also kind of implies moving docs twice - at least for the ones that get updates - and that may not be entirely appreciated. > > I feel like it would, if anything, reduce the incentive to > > deal with these leftover documents properly. > > IMHO, it is just the opposite. Let's face it: ReST build was added around > May, 2016, for Kernel 4.7. People had quite some time and kernel versions > to do conversions. If nothing is done, I doubt we would have any boom on > patches addressing the issues. So I don't have any hard numbers, but my feeling is that this work is continuing apace and perhaps even picking up. Certainly I'm having a harder time keeping up with it, even when you're busy with other things :) These things take time; I'm not really ready to give up on it yet. Thanks, jon