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Date:   Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:07:31 -0700
From:   Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To:     Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/21] Convert hwmon documentation to ReST
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On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 05:43:57PM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Thu, 11 Apr 2019 12:43:24 -0600
> Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> escreveu:
> 
> > On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 16:22:37 -0300
> > Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > This series converts the contents of Documentation/hwmon to ReST
> > > format.
> > > 
> > > PS.: I opted to group the conversion files per groups of maintainer
> > > set, as, if I were to generate one patch per file, it would give around
> > > 160 patches.
> > > 
> > > I also added those patches to my development tree at:
> > > 	https://git.linuxtv.org/mchehab/experimental.git/log/?h=hwmon
> > > 
> > > If you want to see the results, they're at:
> > > 	https://www.infradead.org/~mchehab/hwmon/  
> > 
> > This set seems generally good and could probably be applied as-is.  But I
> > have to ask...is there a reason to not take the last step and actually
> > bring this stuff into the Sphinx doc tree?
> > 
> > We seem to be mostly documenting sysfs files and such.  I am *guessing*
> > that perhaps the set should move to Documentation/admin-guide/hwmon?  Or
> > have I misunderstood the intended audience here?
> 
> :-)
> 
> Yeah, I'd say that 80% of the contents there are user-faced.
> 
> Yet, the main issue with this (and other driver subsystems) is that there's
> a mix of userspace and Kernelspace stuff. One somewhat simple case is
> the abituguru: it has a "datasheet" file:
> 
> 	abituguru-datasheet
> 
> This contains programming information for the corresponding drivers,
> while abituguru and abituguru3 contains mostly userspace
> stuff (still, it also contains the I2C address, with shouldn't mean
> anything for the user).
> 
> However, if you take a look at w83781d, you'll see a mix of both
> userspace and driver developer info there... it has a chapter called
> "Data sheet updates", for example, with is probably meaningless for
> anyone but the hwmon driver developers.
> 
> That's, btw, a pattern that happens a lot inside device driver
> documents on almost all subsystems I checked: driver-specific
> documentation is usually not split into user-facing/kernel-facing.
> 
> While nobody does such split, IMHO, the best would be to keep the
> information outside Documentation/admin-guide. But hey! You're
> the Doc maintainer. If you prefer to move, I'm perfectly fine
> with that.
> 

Same here, but please don't move the files which are kernel facing only.

How do you want to handle this series ? Do you expect it to be pushed
through hwmon, or through Documentation, or do you plan to push yourself ?

If the series isn't pushed through hwmon, we'll likely have a couple of
conflicts against hwmon-next.

Thanks,
Guenter