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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/21] Convert hwmon documentation to ReST
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From:   Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
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On 4/12/19 5:25 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Fri, 12 Apr 2019 09:12:52 -0700
> Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> escreveu:
> 
>> On 4/12/19 9:04 AM, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:07:31 -0700
>>> Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
>>>    
>>>>> While nobody does such split, IMHO, the best would be to keep the
>>>>> information outside Documentation/admin-guide. But hey! You're
>>>>> the Doc maintainer. If you prefer to move, I'm perfectly fine
>>>>> with that.
>>>>>       
>>>>
>>>> Same here, but please don't move the files which are kernel facing only.
>>>
>>> Well, let's step back and think about this.  Who is the audience for
>>> these documents?  That will tell us a lot about where they should really
>>> be.
>>>    
>>
>> Most of them are for users, some of them are for driver developers. A few
>> are for both, though that is generally not the intention (and one may argue
>> that driver internal documentation should be moved into the respective
>> driver source).
> 
> The big issue is really those files that contain both kernel internals
> and userspace stuff.
> 
> This is a common pattern. I just finishing converting a lot more
> documents to ReST and I found the same thing on almost all document
> directories I touched.
> 
>>> What I would prefer to avoid is the status quo where *everything* is in
>>> the top-level directory, and where documents are organized for the
>>> convenience of their maintainers rather than of their readers.  But
>>> sometimes I feel like I'm alone in that desire...:)
>>>    
>> I am fine with separating user pointing from kernel API/driver developer
>> guides, and I agree that it would make a lot of sense. As I said, please
>> just make sure that kernel facing files don't end up in the wrong directory.
> 
> I like the idea of splitting user faced documents from the rest, but
> this is not an easy task. On several cases, there are just a couple
> of paragraphs with things like sysfs entries in the middle of a big
> file with Kernel internals.
> 

Yes, I know. I don't think that cleanup is going to happen anytime soon.

Guenter