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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id v35si24471243plg.187.2019.04.15.20.20.37; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726684AbfDPDUD (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 15 Apr 2019 23:20:03 -0400 Received: from edison.jonmasters.org ([173.255.233.168]:47146 "EHLO edison.jonmasters.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726258AbfDPDUC (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Apr 2019 23:20:02 -0400 Received: from [8.46.73.194] (helo=tonnant.bos.jonmasters.org) by edison.jonmasters.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hGEdZ-0000Np-MW; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 03:19:58 +0000 To: Linus Torvalds , =?UTF-8?B?TcOlbnMgUnVsbGfDpXJk?= Cc: Matt Turner , Borislav Petkov , Alan Cox , Matthew Wilcox , Jann Horn , Al Viro , Thomas Gleixner , kernel list , linux-fsdevel , the arch/x86 maintainers , Linux API , Andrew Morton , Richard Weinberger , Anton Ivanov , linux-alpha , linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org References: <20190305091904.GB8256@zn.tnic> <20190305122218.GD13380@bombadil.infradead.org> <20190305134347.4be2449c@alans-desktop> <20190305145717.GD8256@zn.tnic> <20190305173134.GE8256@zn.tnic> <20190305181138.GG8256@zn.tnic> <20190305181808.GH8256@zn.tnic> From: Jon Masters Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 23:19:47 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 8.46.73.194 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jcm@jonmasters.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on edison.jonmasters.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:31:22 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on edison.jonmasters.org) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Linus, I'm Jon, and I just bought my first Alpha. What can I say, I was late to the party, and I probably need to get out more. Actually, I wanted it for its memory consistency model, or (some would say) lack thereof. On 3/11/19 3:03 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:08 AM Måns Rullgård wrote: >> >> The latest version I have is 5.1, and that uses ECOFF. > > ECOFF _is_ a.out as far as Linux is concerned. > > So Linux basically treats ECOFF as "regular a.out with just some > header extensions". > > We don't have any specific support for ECOFF. > > I _think_. Again, it's been years and years. ...so removing a.out would break various boot tooling as well. I'm still working on getting my Miata up and running upstream kernels (should be shortly) but I'm happy to help out testing any proposals. Jon.