Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261888AbUDCTPt (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Apr 2004 14:15:49 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261897AbUDCTPt (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Apr 2004 14:15:49 -0500 Received: from grendel.digitalservice.pl ([217.67.200.140]:12694 "HELO mail.digitalservice.pl") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S261888AbUDCTPq (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Apr 2004 14:15:46 -0500 From: "R. J. Wysocki" Organization: SiSK To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: 2.6.[45]-.*: weird behavior Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 21:22:54 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200404032122.54823.rjwysocki@sisk.pl> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3665 Lines: 74 Hi, For quite some time I've been observing strange keyboard problems with the kernels 2.6.4 and above. Namely, in a GUI, the keyboard (which is a PS/2) sometimes seems to get "locked" for some time (usually for a couple of seconds) even if there's no any process running in the background (of course there are some processes in the background but they are all sleeping). By saying "locked" I mean that the kernel does not seem to accept any keyboard input whatsoever at that time, but after the kayboard gets "unclocked" it properly passes all of the characters typed in the meantime to applications. Moreover, it often takes more time to "unlock" the keyboard (up to 30 sec. or so), in which case I can speed up the proccess by switchig windows with a mouse (usually it is sufficient to switch once to another window, but sometimes more window switching is necessary). Some days ago I noticed that similar problem occured for example when I tried to unpack the kernel source: the tar process had apparently been suspended for several times for up to 10 sec., so it took more than approx. 3 min. to unpack the source (usually it takes no more than 30 sec.). There were not any processes running in the background, though. I noticed that this happened after updatedb had finished so I tried to recreate this by running updatedb once again and than unpacking the kernel once again and the problem reappeared. I'd run top before and I found that the CPUs were spending 90+ percent of the time on IO-wait (the system is a dual AMD64 w/ NUMA w/o kernel preemption). Strange. I thought it was accidental (the kernel was 2.6.5-rc3-mm2), but yesterday I noticed that the keyboard "locking" occured even more often after I had installed the 2.6.5-rc3-mm4 kernel (it happened after the machine had been - seemingly - idle for some time). I ran top and that's what it showed me: top - 23:14:39 up 3:21, 1 user, load average: 1.24, 1.12, 1.05 Tasks: 111 total, 1 running, 110 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.5% user, 0.0% system, 0.0% nice, 50.0% idle, 49.5% IO-wait Mem: 1030060k total, 1000820k used, 29240k free, 18724k buffers Swap: 1050608k total, 3520k used, 1047088k free, 50168k cached and it had been showing similar things for a minute or so, which is a kind of weird, IMHO. I mean, the only running process was the top itself, so I don't get the 49.5% IO-wait. Then I thought it was a NUMA-related issue but today I had the "keyboard locking problem" on a Celeron (Coppermine)-based laptop running the 2.6.5-rc3 with exactly the same symptoms (apparantly, the kernel stopped accepting the keyboard input or at least passing it to applications - I couldn't even switch from X to a console - and then, when I closed some windows with a mouse preparing the system for reboot, the keyboard got "unlocked" and it started to work as usual). So, there are two different (though a bit similar) architectures affected, it seems. Now, can you please tell me what may cause such a behavior? I really would like to narrow it, so please tell me what I can do for this purpose (I've no idea whatsoever). Yours, Rafael -- Rafael J. Wysocki, SiSK [tel. (+48) 605 053 693] ---------------------------- For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled. -- Richard P. Feynman - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/