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From: David Fries <dfries@mail.win.org>
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Subject: Re: goodbye
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On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:32:28AM +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:14:33PM -0700, Michael Peddemors wrote:
> 	Well, comparing how much spam goes thru linux-mm vs. linux-kernel,
> 	I would say our methods are fairly effective.
> 
> 	The incentive behind the DUL is to force users not to post
> 	straight out to the world, but to use their ISP's servers
> 	for outbound email --- normal M$ users do that, after all.
> 	Only spammers - and UNIX powerusers - want to post directly
> 	to the world from dialups.  And UNIX powerusers should know
> 	better, and be able to use ISP relay service anyway.

I guess you will have to explain to me why that is supposed to be a
good thing to force people to go though their ISP.  I've had personal
experience where I returned to my University which forces everyone to
go though their mail spool and it took me a week or two before I
realized that any e-mail I sent off campus wasn't getting there and I
was using their mail services.  Turns out the university changed the
host names for our ip's and my hostname wasn't changed to reflect that
(stupid name I might add and not for human readability, the previous
ones were understandable.)

To this day I don't know what happened to those e-mails, I do know I
didn't get them and the desired people didn't get them.

There is a lot of comfort looking at /var/log/mail.log and seeing mail
accepted by the computer servicing the other person's account.  Now
all I have is, accepted by university, hope it gets there...

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		|      David Fries                |
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