Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263839AbUDQKcg (ORCPT ); Sat, 17 Apr 2004 06:32:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263813AbUDQKcd (ORCPT ); Sat, 17 Apr 2004 06:32:33 -0400 Received: from dialin-212-144-169-097.arcor-ip.net ([212.144.169.97]:4551 "EHLO karin.de.interearth.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263799AbUDQKbb (ORCPT ); Sat, 17 Apr 2004 06:31:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4080B8F4.80003@nortelnetworks.com> References: <20040416011401.GD18329@widomaker.com> <1082079061.7141.85.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> <20040415185355.1674115b.akpm@osdl.org> <1082084048.7141.142.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> <20040416045924.GA4870@linuxace.com> <1082093346.7141.159.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> <20040416144433.GE2253@logos.cnet> <408001E6.7020001@treblig.org> <1082132015.2581.30.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> <5FF89D68-8FD9-11D8-988A-000A958E35DC@fhm.edu> <4080B8F4.80003@nortelnetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-28-809344968" Message-Id: <6E0A739C-9055-11D8-988A-000A958E35DC@fhm.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Linux Kernel , Trond Myklebust From: Daniel Egger Subject: Re: NFS and kernel 2.6.x Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 11:56:00 +0200 To: Chris Friesen X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.1 (v33, 10.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2966 Lines: 77 --Apple-Mail-28-809344968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 17.04.2004, at 06:56, Chris Friesen wrote: >> Great you want to help here. So I've a system which is NFS root using >> a >> 3c940 gigabit onboard NIC on kernel 2.6.5 and which is dead fish in >> the >> water somewhere in between 10 seconds and 5 minutes after boot using >> NFS over UDP. The last thing I see are 3 or 4 messages of the type: > > If this is an issue, it might make sense to have root be a tmpfs > filesystem, > and then have specific network mounts. I'm trying to keep this a standard Debian system as much as possible. Also I've several machines having a large number of shared partitions, some of them fulfill different purposes, so I would need to customize several instances which sounds like much work to me; part of it certainly unnecessary because it works just fine with older kernels... :) Also there is the issue that the only thing that is sort of guaranteed to be transported over the network is the kernel itself. Sometimes it hangs already when or just after loading init. I'm not convinced it will be always able to transfer the whole ramdisk.... Forgot to mention: I've also seen segfaults and wrong file contents in random places while init executes the scripts in /etc/rc*.d but those seem to have gone away after I used a more conservative set of kernel config options. Now it'll only hang. > Note--don't make "/var/log" network mounted, various apps default to > trying to check for files there--if the server goes away, you can't > log in/out. There's unfortunately more to this. I also cannot log in if any of the files (bash, bashrc, profiles, libraries, etc.) needed for login are on nfs. The question here is what is more reliable in terms of data transfer after an Oops: NFS or syslogd (UDP). So far I'm satisfied with NFS here, so I don't see a good reason to change. Servus, Daniel --Apple-Mail-28-809344968 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iQEVAwUBQID/NTBkNMiD99JrAQKgjQf8D3oGU3wlBL9tPGHETlkYrJ3wFv7O6QW3 ZXCDhyw3v68edkHO9blGWmJJHzrCZU9qsYSLfYovTU6HCcdt93OZceS56PabGQmz nxrmtnRj7T7IwpUs47RBhJktlhntPnCN5gn3yxM4Z3MOnIwd+8agL+cgpuL53S4P XJKQX7bvIneMcIlFb3V1732B96Mb3nvBEG0K9dHwSXMpdGBCjd8/TroDueRufNQI mwzjqfIsLhaoG98H1t2vmAebRulvquxkzUJwRAFtX9xQ2AAaB2oee5fTVziqeL/3 cJs99Z4pvZ4o2QU50faoPVat/I22vADi6vQaYx2h558TOV3lg1vpQQ== =k6xD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-28-809344968-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/