Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:38:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:38:19 -0400 Received: from garrincha.netbank.com.br ([200.203.199.88]:31500 "HELO netbank.com.br") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:38:14 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 01:33:26 -0300 (BRST) From: Rik van Riel To: Matti Aarnio Cc: Michael Peddemors , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: goodbye In-Reply-To: <20010408023228.L805@mea-ext.zmailer.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, Matti Aarnio wrote: > The incentive behind the DUL is to force users not to post > straight out to the world, but to use their ISP's servers > for outbound email --- normal M$ users do that, after all. > Only spammers - and UNIX powerusers - want to post directly > to the world from dialups. And UNIX powerusers should know > better, UNIX power users do know better. They know their ISPs mail server could show up in RSS or ORBS any moment. Therefor they use their own machines for sending out email. IMHO DUL is an unethical list to use because it assumes guilty by default. This is different from all other spam blocking lists, which only block hosts _after_ they've found something wrong with them. The other exception is untestable-netblocks.orbs.org, which blocks everything it cannot test and is just as bad as DUL. Anyway, since linux-kernel has chosen to not receive email from me I won't bother answering VM bugreports or anything here. It's up to Matti and Davem to decide how useful a place linux-kernel will be. Rik -- Virtual memory is like a game you can't win; However, without VM there's truly nothing to lose... http://www.surriel.com/ http://www.conectiva.com/ http://distro.conectiva.com.br/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/