Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 02:47:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 02:47:46 -0400 Received: from juicer34.bigpond.com ([139.134.6.86]:31452 "EHLO mailin9.bigpond.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 02:47:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:47:20 +1000 Message-Id: <200104090647.f396lK921118@mobilix.atnf.CSIRO.AU> From: Richard Gooch To: Rik van Riel Cc: "David S. Miller" , Matti Aarnio , Michael Peddemors , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: goodbye In-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <15057.16344.113642.668424@pizda.ninka.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Rik van Riel writes: > On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, David S. Miller wrote: > > Rik van Riel writes: > > > Anyway, since linux-kernel has chosen to not receive email from me > > > > Funny how this posting went through then... > > > > If it is specifically when you are sending mail from some other place, > > state so, don't make blanket statements which obviously are not wholly > > true. > > I'm temporarily using my ISP's smarthost. However, I'll turn > this off again soon because I'd rather stop with linux-kernel > then give in to the guilty-by-default attitude that comes with > DUL. It's not a guilty-by-default attitude. The DUL is a way for ISPs to say "we can't make users accountable for email sent from these IP's, so if you're concerned about potential SPAM, block them at your end. We've set up a relay so our users can still send out email but can be held accountable for abuses". The ISP could have blocked outgoing port 25 instead, forcing you to go via the relay. Then you'd have no choice. Regards, Richard.... Permanent: rgooch@atnf.csiro.au Current: rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/