Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264034AbUDSLNa (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Apr 2004 07:13:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264346AbUDSLNa (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Apr 2004 07:13:30 -0400 Received: from gstserv.netnea.com ([213.200.225.210]:26459 "EHLO james.netnea.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264034AbUDSLN2 (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Apr 2004 07:13:28 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:23:35 +0200 From: Charles Bueche To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Cc: vcjones@NetworkingUnlimited.com (Vincent C Jones), kevin@scrye.com Subject: Re: 2.6.5, ACPI, suspend and ThinkPad R40 Message-Id: <20040419082335.6b10bdd9@bluez.bueche.ch> In-Reply-To: <20040406131602.CCED21421B@x23.networkingunlimited.com> References: <1HjUX-5pa-3@gated-at.bofh.it> <1HnYA-hr-9@gated-at.bofh.it> <1HKVd-1Uf-3@gated-at.bofh.it> <20040406131602.CCED21421B@x23.networkingunlimited.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: $|Nk/@TgZ5o#.yMqN*6c'4p/618&z3u~2V8.*td7vyVp9lPIy!O@{.bF+/o["H-00Fxfh3E|X"G|[K7y(aN\\BZ^'J#\"1u2&Qbe'8l<{3qBqy|R/_s_8o5fVUjg@dZ'E\tf_u^{;{g%*/6Glu!-~D\#,Gw_TD&p'mURwR2AnKX"!FSB#b&CD`0\ZEp52#W-z`Z~b2lPwv~de]a01M[&e+SwzgeIwtGaPp@@6pK=4?a0d9rVYnGs(Cf Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1578 Lines: 36 On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:16:02 -0400 (EDT) vcjones@NetworkingUnlimited.com (Vincent C Jones) wrote: > Is it my imagination or is there an acute lack of interest in > supporting notebook features in 2.6.X? Since the early days of 2.5.X, > there have been questions raised regarding suspend/resume and related > questions of critical importance to mobile users. All (at least those > associated with IBM ThinkPads) have been ignored by developers, with > the only responses coming from other notebook users expressing similar > concerns. I can add my "me-too" here. I own a Dell I8600 which perform excellently in gentoo with 2.6.x, with the only remaining issue being suspend+resume. I have tried several times to understand this ACPI thing, only to find that the KISS principle has been forgotten when it has been designed. Maybe it's simply not possible to design something"acceptably simple" in this business, but the fact that Alan Cox has called it "terminally broken" tend to support my point of view. My intend is not to start a flamewar here, but with laptop HW coming down in price, we have to provide a better support for casual users. I can't contribute code here, but I can test things you throw at me for Dell I8600, so feel free. Charles -- Charles Bueche sand, snow, wave, wind and net -surfer - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/