Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263252AbUDZTMu (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:12:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263394AbUDZTMu (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:12:50 -0400 Received: from ns.suse.de ([195.135.220.2]:63180 "EHLO Cantor.suse.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263252AbUDZTMp (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:12:45 -0400 Subject: Re: I oppose Chris and Jeff's patch to add an unnecessary additional namespace to ReiserFS From: Chris Mason To: Hans Reiser Cc: Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com, akpm@osdl.org In-Reply-To: <408D51C4.7010803@namesys.com> References: <1082750045.12989.199.camel@watt.suse.com> <408D3FEE.1030603@namesys.com> <1083000711.30344.44.camel@watt.suse.com> <408D51C4.7010803@namesys.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1083006783.30344.102.camel@watt.suse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:13:03 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1396 Lines: 38 On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 14:15, Hans Reiser wrote: > Chris Mason wrote: > > >On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 12:59, Hans Reiser wrote: > > > >v4 didn't factor into these decisions because it was still in extremely > >early stages back then (2.4.16 or so). > > > It was clearly indicated then that accessing acls was scheduled for V4 > not V3. > Well, that part we've always disagreed most on is how to support existing users. SUSE implemented the acls for v3 because we felt they were an important feature, and didn't want to tell users asking for ACLs to switch filesystems when it was reasonable to implement in v3. It seems that you don't want the ACLs in v3 for two major reasons: 1) it's not v4 2) it's based on xattrs I don't feel this is a good way to support v3, since v4 still means telling someone to switch just for acls, and not using xattrs means not using the same API as the rest of the kernel. I hope v4 does improve the xattr api, and I hope it manages to do so for more then just reiser4. It is important that application writers are able to code to a single interface and get coverage across all the major linux filesystems. -chris - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/