Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265002AbUD2WWA (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:22:00 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265003AbUD2WWA (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:22:00 -0400 Received: from mtvcafw.sgi.com ([192.48.171.6]:4993 "EHLO omx2.sgi.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265002AbUD2WV6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:21:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:18:17 -0700 From: Paul Jackson To: Andrew Morton , Shailabh Nagar Cc: vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, jgarzik@pobox.com, brettspamacct@fastclick.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: ~500 megs cached yet 2.6.5 goes into swap hell Message-Id: <20040429151817.49df30a9.pj@sgi.com> In-Reply-To: <20040429145725.267ea7b8.akpm@osdl.org> References: <40904A84.2030307@yahoo.com.au> <200404292001.i3TK1BYe005147@eeyore.valparaiso.cl> <20040429133613.791f9f9b.pj@sgi.com> <20040429141947.1ff81104.akpm@osdl.org> <20040429143403.35a7a550.pj@sgi.com> <20040429145725.267ea7b8.akpm@osdl.org> Organization: SGI X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.8 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1254 Lines: 34 Andrew wrote: > Even if the background activity was clamped to just a few megs > of cache you'll find that the seek activity is a killer, and > needs a limitation mechanism. True - the seek activity is another critical resource that would need to be throttled to keep updatedb/backup from interferring with my late night labours. Let's see, that's: 1) cpu scheduling ticks 2) memory for virtual address backing store 3) memory for file related caching 4) disk arm motion Hmmm ... actually not so much a numa-placement extension, but rather a CKRM opportunity. CKRM focuses on measuring and restraining how much of specified critical resources a task is using; numa placement on which cpus or memory nodes are allowed to be used at all. See further the CKRM thread of Shailabh Nagar, also running on lkml today. -- I won't rest till it's the best ... Programmer, Linux Scalability Paul Jackson 1.650.933.1373 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/