Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265003AbUD2WZJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:25:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265004AbUD2WZJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:25:09 -0400 Received: from wirefire.bureaudepost.com ([66.38.187.209]:31118 "EHLO oasis.linuxant.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265003AbUD2WZB (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:25:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200404292347.17431.koke_lkml@amedias.org> References: <4FE43C97-9A20-11D8-B804-000A95CD704C@wagland.net> <4091757B.3090209@techsource.com> <200404292347.17431.koke_lkml@amedias.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <0CAE0144-9A2C-11D8-B83D-000A95BCAC26@linuxant.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Paul Wagland , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Rusty Russell , Rik van Riel , David Gibson , Timothy Miller From: Marc Boucher Subject: Re: [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:24:58 -0400 To: koke@sindominio.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1836 Lines: 47 The inherent instability of binary modules is a religious myth. Any module can be stable or unstable, depending on how it's written, tested and the environment (hardware/evolving APIs it depends on). For example, Apple's current Mac OS X is extremely stable imho, despite the fact that their hardware drivers are generally binary-only. The same goes for trustworthiness. It's a matter of point of view / preference whether you trust open-source projects and their security (which can be far from perfect, as evidenced by the recent break-ins in various servers hosting source repositories) more than stuff produced by a corporation. Every model has disadvantages and advantages. Responsible projects, people and corporations usually all care a lot about their reputation and can be trustworthy, regardless of the specific form in which they distribute software. I think that Rik is right when saying that the key information that should be conveyed is who is responsible for providing support. The wording should be kept neutral, without negative connotation nor religious bias. Marc On Apr 29, 2004, at 5:47 PM, Jorge Bernal (Koke) wrote: > On Jueves, 29 de Abril de 2004 23:36, Timothy Miller wrote: >> >> Hmmm... how about "untrusted"? Not sure... >> > > I like "untrusted". Another option is some like "binary only modules > can make > your system unstable and kernel developers have nothing to do with > that" (but > well written, and shorter if possible). > > -- > Jorge Bernal aka. Koke > koke@amedias.org // koke@sindominio.net > JID: koke@zgzjabber.ath.cx > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/