Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265016AbUD2WlH (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:41:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265014AbUD2WlG (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:41:06 -0400 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:5264 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265016AbUD2WlD (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:41:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:40:57 +0100 From: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk To: Marc Boucher Cc: koke@sindominio.net, Paul Wagland , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Rusty Russell , Rik van Riel , David Gibson , Timothy Miller Subject: Re: [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license Message-ID: <20040429224057.GQ17014@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> References: <4FE43C97-9A20-11D8-B804-000A95CD704C@wagland.net> <4091757B.3090209@techsource.com> <200404292347.17431.koke_lkml@amedias.org> <0CAE0144-9A2C-11D8-B83D-000A95BCAC26@linuxant.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0CAE0144-9A2C-11D8-B83D-000A95BCAC26@linuxant.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1231 Lines: 22 On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 06:24:58PM -0400, Marc Boucher wrote: > > The inherent instability of binary modules is a religious myth. Any > module can be stable or unstable, depending on how it's written, tested > and the environment (hardware/evolving APIs it depends on). For > example, Apple's current Mac OS X is extremely stable imho, despite the > fact that their hardware drivers are generally binary-only. > > The same goes for trustworthiness. It's a matter of point of view / > preference whether you trust open-source projects and their security > (which can be far from perfect, as evidenced by the recent break-ins in > various servers hosting source repositories) more than stuff produced > by a corporation. Every model has disadvantages and advantages. You are missing the point. Badly. All software sucks, be it open-source of proprietary. The only question is what can be done with particular instance of suckage, and that's where having the source matters. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/