Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265109AbUD3IEt (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:04:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265111AbUD3IEs (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:04:48 -0400 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:13503 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265109AbUD3IEf (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:04:35 -0400 Message-ID: <40920881.6070300@pobox.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:04:17 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030703 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Boucher CC: Sean Estabrooks , koke@sindominio.net, rusty@rustcorp.com.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, david@gibson.dropbear.id.au, torvalds@osdl.org, miller@techsource.com, paul@wagland.net Subject: Re: [PATCH] Blacklist binary-only modules lying about their license References: <4FE43C97-9A20-11D8-B804-000A95CD704C@wagland.net> <4091757B.3090209@techsource.com> <200404292347.17431.koke_lkml@amedias.org> <0CAE0144-9A2C-11D8-B83D-000A95BCAC26@linuxant.com> <20040429195553.4fba0da7.seanlkml@rogers.com> <3A39091E-9A4C-11D8-B83D-000A95BCAC26@linuxant.com> <20040430004344.663acf90.seanlkml@rogers.com> <6FD0ADAF-9A69-11D8-B83D-000A95BCAC26@linuxant.com> In-Reply-To: <6FD0ADAF-9A69-11D8-B83D-000A95BCAC26@linuxant.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1380 Lines: 44 Marc Boucher wrote: > > > On Apr 30, 2004, at 12:43 AM, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > >> >> Dear Marc, >> >> Who decided that the goal was to become ubiquitous at any cost? How >> are you so sure that removing the incentive/reward for hardware vendors >> to release open source drivers is best for Linux in the long run? > > > There are major chipset vendors out there who have managed to become > market leaders while not providing any drivers for Linux. I'm not so sure you should pluralize "vendors" ;-) > But other vendors are also still releasing new native linux drivers, > despite the availability of our solutions (Intel's project for Centrino > at ipw2100.sourceforge.net is a great example). > > This essentially proves that we are not removing the incentive to do > proper native drivers, That conclusion cannot be drawn from the pretense... It's strictly a cost-based function for a business. If a business can achieve Linux support for free, without paying driver and support engineers, they do so. DriverLoader significantly lowers that cost, while not providing an open source solution at all. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/