Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261857AbUD3Xmy (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:42:54 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261865AbUD3Xmy (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:42:54 -0400 Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com ([32.97.110.132]:27126 "EHLO e34.co.us.ibm.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261857AbUD3Xmu (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:42:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:42:22 -0500 From: "Jose R. Santos" To: Andrew Morton Cc: "Jose R. Santos" , jrsantos@austin.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, anton@samba.org, dheger@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] dentry and inode cache hash algorithm performance changes. Message-ID: <20040430234222.GO14271@rx8.ibm.com> References: <20040430191539.GC14271@rx8.ibm.com> <20040430131832.45be6956.akpm@osdl.org> <20040430205701.GG14271@rx8.ibm.com> <20040430213324.GK14271@rx8.ibm.com> <20040430150256.25735762.akpm@osdl.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: <20040430150256.25735762.akpm@osdl.org> (from akpm@osdl.org on Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 17:02:56 -0500) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.0.16 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3230 Lines: 62 On 04/30/04 17:02:56, Andrew Morton wrote: > Does this mean you need to redo the instrumentation and benchmarking? If > so, please do that and send the numbers along? There's no particular > urgency on that, but we should do it. No, the screw up was made we I created the patch on a clean source tree. This patch represents the actual data gather on those graphs. > Also, I'd be interested in understanding what the input to the hashing > functions looked like in this testing. It could be that the new hash just > happens to work well with one particular test's dataset. Please convince > us otherwise ;) hehehe... I knew it could't be that easy. :) For the dentry hash function, some of my other coorkers had put this hash function through various testing and have concluded that the hash function was equal or better than the default hash function. These runs were done with a (hopefully to be Open Source soon) benchmark called FFSB which can simulate various io patters across many filesystems and variable file sizes. SpecSFS fileset is basically a lot of small file which varies depending on the size of the run. For a not so big SMP system the number of file is in the +20 Million files range. Of those 20 million files only 10% are access randomly by the client. The purpose of this is that the benchmark tries to stress not only the NFS layer but, VM and Filesystems layers as well. The filesets are also hundreds of gigabytes in size in order to promote disk head movement by guaranteeing cache misses in memory. SFS 27% of the workload are lookups __d_lookup has showing high in my profiles. For the inode hash the problem that I see is that when running a benchmark with this huge fileset we end up trying to free a lot of inode entries during the run while trying to put new entries in cache. We end up calling ifind_fast() which calls find_inodes_fast() held under inode_lock. In order to avoid holding the inode_lock we needed to avoid having long chains in that hash function. When I took a look at the original hash function, I found it to be a bit to simple for any workload. My solution (which I took advantage of Dominique's work) was to create a hash that function that could generate completely different hashes depending on the hashval and the superblock in order to have the hash scale as we added more filesystems to the machine. Both of these problems can be somewhat tuned out by increasing the number of buckets of both d and i cache but it got to a point were I had 256MB of inode and 128MB in dentry hash buckets on a not so large SMP. With the hash changes I have been able to reduce the number of buckets to 128MB for inode cache and to 32MB for dentry cache and still get better performance. If it help my case... I haven't been running this benchmark for long, so I haven't been able to find a way to cheat. I need to come up with generic solutions until I can find a cheat for the benchmark. :) -JRS - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/