Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262322AbUFHJeK (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jun 2004 05:34:10 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264915AbUFHJeK (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jun 2004 05:34:10 -0400 Received: from gprs214-162.eurotel.cz ([160.218.214.162]:21632 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262322AbUFHJeA (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jun 2004 05:34:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 11:17:09 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Clemens Schwaighofer Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: APM realy sucks on 2.6.x Message-ID: <20040608091709.GC2569@elf.ucw.cz> References: <40C0E91D.9070900@scienion.de> <20040607123839.GC11860@elf.ucw.cz> <40C46F7F.7060703@scienion.de> <20040607140511.GA1467@elf.ucw.cz> <40C47B94.6040408@scienion.de> <20040607144841.GD1467@elf.ucw.cz> <40C53D80.2080603@tequila.co.jp> <20040608085814.GA1269@elf.ucw.cz> <40C580BE.1030802@tequila.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40C580BE.1030802@tequila.co.jp> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1451 Lines: 35 Hi! > |>| PCMCIA... well, that's another obsolete technology. Too bad. > |> > |>PCMCIA is obsolete? Did I miss something, or was this a joke? > | > | > | Obsoleted by cardbus, I believe. (cardbus cards look like PCMCIA > | cards, but electrical protocol is different) Plus, as someone else > | noted, stuff moves into mainboard. USB also replacs part of what > | PCMCIA was for. > > hmm, I didn't know that there is a change from PCMCIA to cardbus. > Thought still there are lot of pcmcia stuff around. wlan cards, eg my > dial up card (CF card into a PCMCIA adapter). Well I wouldn't abandon > PCMCIA so fast. At least the linux kernel is know for beeing able to use > very old hardware in a very good way ... Yes, pcmcia still survives in form of compactflash, mostly used by low-powered handhelds etc. That's where ISA survives too. I agree that supporting PCMCIA is usefull, and that linux should run on old hardware; but you can see that PCMCIA and APM is in "old hardware" category, along with ISA, Pentium I CPUs and serial ports. Linux still tries to support 386 cpus, and its right. However its not same level of support as modern hardware. Pavel -- 934a471f20d6580d5aad759bf0d97ddc - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/