Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264918AbUFHJuj (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jun 2004 05:50:39 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261993AbUFHJui (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jun 2004 05:50:38 -0400 Received: from smtp3.cwidc.net ([154.33.63.113]:27306 "EHLO smtp3.cwidc.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264918AbUFHJu3 (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jun 2004 05:50:29 -0400 Message-ID: <40C58BD2.8040001@tequila.co.jp> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 18:50:10 +0900 From: Clemens Schwaighofer Organization: TEQUILA\ Japan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040308 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pavel Machek CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: APM realy sucks on 2.6.x References: <40C0E91D.9070900@scienion.de> <20040607123839.GC11860@elf.ucw.cz> <40C46F7F.7060703@scienion.de> <20040607140511.GA1467@elf.ucw.cz> <40C47B94.6040408@scienion.de> <20040607144841.GD1467@elf.ucw.cz> <40C53D80.2080603@tequila.co.jp> <20040608085814.GA1269@elf.ucw.cz> <40C580BE.1030802@tequila.co.jp> <20040608091709.GC2569@elf.ucw.cz> In-Reply-To: <20040608091709.GC2569@elf.ucw.cz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.83.3.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2535 Lines: 64 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Pavel Machek wrote: | Hi! | | |>|>| PCMCIA... well, that's another obsolete technology. Too bad. |>|> |>|>PCMCIA is obsolete? Did I miss something, or was this a joke? |>| |>| |>| Obsoleted by cardbus, I believe. (cardbus cards look like PCMCIA |>| cards, but electrical protocol is different) Plus, as someone else |>| noted, stuff moves into mainboard. USB also replacs part of what |>| PCMCIA was for. |> |>hmm, I didn't know that there is a change from PCMCIA to cardbus. |>Thought still there are lot of pcmcia stuff around. wlan cards, eg my |>dial up card (CF card into a PCMCIA adapter). Well I wouldn't abandon |>PCMCIA so fast. At least the linux kernel is know for beeing able to use |>very old hardware in a very good way ... | | | Yes, pcmcia still survives in form of compactflash, mostly used by | low-powered handhelds etc. That's where ISA survives too. well and low-powered handhelds are one field where linux should run :) at least on my zaurus its running happily [okay this doesn't have a pcmcia slot, just an sd/card and cf/card] | I agree that supporting PCMCIA is usefull, and that linux should run | on old hardware; but you can see that PCMCIA and APM is in "old | hardware" category, along with ISA, Pentium I CPUs and serial ports. Well I wouldn't put PCMCIA into the same part as ISA and Pentium I, because my 2 year old Sonylaptop with a Pentium-M 4 1.5Ghz has PCMCIA slots ... So its not like it is found only on stone old Laptops. | Linux still tries to support 386 cpus, and its right. However its not | same level of support as modern hardware. yeah but its very rare to find 386 (except perhaps junkyards), but its very common to find PCMCIA. way more easy than Pentium I or ISA slots ... - -- Clemens Schwaighofer - IT Engineer & System Administration ========================================================== TEQUILA\Japan, 6-17-2 Ginza Chuo-ku, Tokyo 104-8167, JAPAN Tel: +81-(0)3-3545-7703 Fax: +81-(0)3-3545-7343 http://www.tequila.co.jp ========================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAxYvRjBz/yQjBxz8RArD4AKCehJaV3Rrh/U0kLuEvJB5mo7AABQCfSHgK Dpl/LGbWYG9cP8K33LQlef4= =Ik+A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/