Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265359AbUFHVRq (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jun 2004 17:17:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265353AbUFHVRq (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jun 2004 17:17:46 -0400 Received: from mail6.bluewin.ch ([195.186.4.229]:11689 "EHLO mail6.bluewin.ch") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265325AbUFHVRc (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jun 2004 17:17:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 23:08:09 +0200 From: Roger Luethi To: "David S. Miller" Cc: jgarzik@pobox.com, netdev@oss.sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC] ethtool semantics Message-ID: <20040608210809.GA10542@k3.hellgate.ch> Mail-Followup-To: "David S. Miller" , jgarzik@pobox.com, netdev@oss.sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20040607212804.GA17012@k3.hellgate.ch> <20040607145723.41da5783.davem@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040607145723.41da5783.davem@redhat.com> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.7-rc1 on i686 X-GPG-Fingerprint: 92 F4 DC 20 57 46 7B 95 24 4E 9E E7 5A 54 DC 1B X-GPG: 1024/80E744BD wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1167 Lines: 27 On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 14:57:23 -0700, David S. Miller wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 23:28:04 +0200 > Roger Luethi wrote: > > > What is the correct response if a user passes ethtool speed or duplex > > arguments while autoneg is on? Some possible answers are: > > [...] > speed and duplex fields should be silently ignored in this case It may not matter much because few people care about forced media these days. And it is debatable whether trying to guess the users intention is a good idea (we lack means for users to manipulate autoneg results via advertisted values but that's no big deal). However, "silently ignoring" strikes me as a very poor choice, in stark contrast to Unix/Linux tradition. A user issues a command which cannot be executed and gets the same response that is used to indicate success!? What school of user interface design is that? How is that not confusing users? Roger - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/