Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266048AbUFJAeO (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Jun 2004 20:34:14 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266054AbUFJAeO (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Jun 2004 20:34:14 -0400 Received: from mion.elka.pw.edu.pl ([194.29.160.35]:1988 "EHLO mion.elka.pw.edu.pl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266048AbUFJAeM (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Jun 2004 20:34:12 -0400 From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz To: "Eric D. Mudama" , Jens Axboe Subject: Re: ide errors in 7-rc1-mm1 and later Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 02:38:11 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 Cc: Jeff Garzik , Ed Tomlinson , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton References: <1085689455.7831.8.camel@localhost> <20040605092447.GB13641@suse.de> <20040606161827.GC28576@bounceswoosh.org> In-Reply-To: <20040606161827.GC28576@bounceswoosh.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200406100238.11857.bzolnier@elka.pw.edu.pl> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1657 Lines: 37 /me just thinks loudly 'linear range' FLUSH CACHE seems so easy to implement that I always wondered why FLUSH CACHE command doesn't make any use of LBA address and number of sectors. On Sunday 06 of June 2004 18:18, Eric D. Mudama wrote: > On Sat, Jun 5 at 11:24, Jens Axboe wrote: > >I did suggest this a few years ago. The comment I received was that > >they didn't take suggestions from OS people, if I didn't have a drive > >implementation to go with the proposal they couldn't use it for > >anything. Which was interesting, since that seemed to suggest that t13 > >had little steering in ata development, they mainly put into the ATA > >specs what drive manufacturers shoved at them. Of course this isn't 100% > >true, but it does explain a lot of things :-) > > If it helps, I'm listening. > > Suggestions/proposals for new features etc, if they're a good idea, I > can help push inside via our SATA/T13 reps. Note that as per all > long-lived specs with multiple revisions, changing the behavior of an > existing feature to something incompatible is virtually never > feasable. > > >Andre even tried getting FUA to do what we needed, no such luck there. > >Some other bigger OS wanted it differently, the rest is history. > > Lo siento, I wasn't around when that occurred. Of course, that other > bigger OS has a very large installed base, and selling a drive that > breaks it is corporate suicide. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/