Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:52:05 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:51:56 -0400 Received: from nat-hdqt.valinux.com ([198.186.202.17]:35626 "EHLO golux.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:51:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:53:20 -0400 From: esr@thyrsus.com To: Aaron Lehmann Cc: Michael Elizabeth Chastain , kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.0.0 release announcement Message-ID: <20010411215320.G9081@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: esr@thyrsus.com, Aaron Lehmann , Michael Elizabeth Chastain , kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <200104112056.NAA20872@bosch.cygnus.com> <20010411174609.A8410@thyrsus.com> <20010411180138.A27597@vitelus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010411180138.A27597@vitelus.com>; from aaronl@vitelus.com on Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 06:01:38PM -0700 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Aaron Lehmann : > Maybe you could kill two birds with one stone by calling 1.0.0 the > prototype and rewriting it in C. If I were to become absolutely convinced that I can't get acceptable speed out of Python, I might do that. There's a gcml project that tracked the CML2 compiler up to about 0.72 level that might make a decent starting point. Unfortunately, I'm fairly sure that finishing gcml would take long enough to render the point moot, because by the time it was done the average Linux machine would have sped up enough for the Python implementation not to be laggy anymore :-). No joke -- *you* try writing a theorem-prover in a language with only fixed-extent data types. Go on. Try it. I think you will (as Mark Twain put it about the consequences of teasing a cat) acquire a valuable education, the facts of which will never grow dim or doubtful. I'm pretty sure that tuning the Python implementation (coming up with faster algorithms, perhaps by reorganizing the data structures to do more precomputation) will be a more effective use of my time. -- Eric S. Raymond "One of the ordinary modes, by which tyrants accomplish their purposes without resistance, is, by disarming the people, and making it an offense to keep arms." -- Constitutional scholar and Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, 1840 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/